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Hi there. I'm currently trying to replace some light fittings. First one went well but the second has me stumped. Just wanted some advice before continuing. I've taken off the ceiling rose to find the wiring shown in the photo below. I'm confused as the red wires don't seem to be connected to anything. My new fitting is also shown in the photo below. How would I go about connecting this up?
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That is correct. The reds are permanently live. This is known as "loop in" or "3 plate" wiring system.
The black with sleeving on it is the switched live. This is the one that connects to the L of the fitting. The other two blacks are neutral (N)

DO NOT MIX THESE BLACKS UP!

Finally, the earth wires (bare copper) need to be sleeved in green/yellow and be connected to the earth terminal of the fitting as its made of metal. The old fitting doesn't appear to be connected to earth.
 
littlespark said:
That is correct. The reds are permanently live. This is known as "loop in" or "3 plate" wiring system.
The black with sleeving on it is the switched live. This is the one that connects to the L of the fitting. The other two blacks are neutral (N)

DO NOT MIX THESE BLACKS UP!

Finally, the earth wires (bare copper) need to be sleeved in green/yellow and be connected to the earth terminal of the fitting as its made of metal. The old fitting doesn't appear to be connected to earth.
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Thanks very much. To save confusion and blowing anything up I have just one more question. Sorry if I sound like an idiot, just want to be sure beforehand. On the old light fitting there doesn't appear to be an earth whereas on the new one there is on the centre terminal. Do I leave this in place opposite where the red live wires are meant to be connected?
 
It looks like in the old fitting, the centre connector had the earth taken out, and was used for the reds. Hence why the old fitting wasnt earthed. (although it looks like its been wrapped round the screw fixing the bracket to the ceiling.

Use one of these old terminals for the reds... the 3 in the new fitting will be for the live, earth, neutral.

Do not electrically connect the reds to the new fitting in any way. They should just be connected together, but not to the fitting. There should be space in the fitting base to hold all 4 connectors
 
anf if the new fitting is metal it must be earthed
 

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