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Doing an eicr and came across this....just beggars belief that in 2005 when this was installed someone actually did this looked at it and went

Yep Jobs a good 'un

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James

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It’s amazing how close to square those mice can chew a box after you fitted it!
 

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From the first photo all looked ok and then you went and spoilt it all..

Do you think that the trunking is newer than the board and possibly replaced some larger trunking?
 

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its alright if it was that many moons ago, the person doing that install probably hadnt been on a 5 week course to get qualified. we should be grateful that there are now lots of providers of training to join a part p scheme.
 
i think it was to provide the homeowner with a bit of 'buzz' before he left for work each morning... (apparently he was tasked with writing the 18th regs)... so perhaps he needed it???
 

magnoliafan89

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Scary thing is is that someone did an eicr back in 2014...and didnt catch it.
The installer had stuck a nice nic eic approved sticker on it...so you know they we're clearly professional.
 

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Scary thing is is that someone did an eicr back in 2014...and didnt catch it.
The installer had stuck a nice nic eic approved sticker on it...so you know they we're clearly professional.
To be fair they couldn’t have seen that from they van as they drove by and did the eicr...
 

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Yes why the board change? There are some very cost effective ways to resolve this that do not warrant a board change unless there are other undisclosed issues with the board or your customer is interesting in upgrading anyway.
 

magnoliafan89

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To be fair it was gonna be a board change but it may be left as that. Will look back in tomorrow and determine it then. Other than the two lighting circuits not being covered by rcd there isn't any other reasons.
 

darkwood

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The patch is fine as long as you used some decent glue thus won't drop off, lack of rcd's only warrants non compliance note but was to regulation when installed if that is what you suspect.

I personally would leave the board as is, explain to the customer there is no reason to upgrade then explain the benefits of a modern board without pushing them into an upgrade and just say you would be happy to quote it if they ever decide to upgrade it.
 
I simply cannot believe any real sparks would have left the consumer unit like that with a ruddy massive hole in the bottom.

It had to be a builder installer or Diyer ....
 
Absolutely standard diy shed hook up.
Seen dozens just like this every year.
The best one most recently was a 10mm g/y used as the ‘washing line’ and 2.5mm red / black singles tied to it using bin bag ties to supply power to a garden work shop. Over a span of about 30metres.
The insulation on the singles was all blistered and crumbly from years of u.v abuse. When I took it down the red and black insulation just crumbled into bits
 
ut was to regulation when installed
When you say this do you mean that because it was ok when installed it is ok now. Eg it passed 16th edition regs and still complying with 16th,, surely then electricians would need to know what was contained within each edition and the time line for each? I don't get this surely all testing is done to the current regs??
 

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When you say this do you mean that because it was ok when installed it is ok now. Eg it passed 16th edition regs and still complying with 16th,, surely then electricians would need to know what was contained within each edition and the time line for each? I don't get this surely all testing is done to the current regs??
Yes all testing and inspection is carried out to current regulations. However you only code non-compliances relating to safety, you don't code an item which does not comply but has no effect on the safety of the installation.
For example red and black t&e doesn't comply with current regulations but doesn't affect the safety of the installation.
 

magnoliafan89

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When you say this do you mean that because it was ok when installed it is ok now. Eg it passed 16th edition regs and still complying with 16th,, surely then electricians would need to know what was contained within each edition and the time line for each? I don't get this surely all testing is done to the current regs??
For instance the 18th now states when installing trunking that u need fire clips inside...previously u didnt. Doesn't mean you now have to take it all down and start again. I code it a c3 and mark it down as 5.2 in schedule of inspection where it says cables being correctly supported in their run.
 

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