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I got off my bum and did my AM2 in 2016 and it wasn't used then. But SY was???

Can’t see the point of having SY as part of the exam personally.

Be better off with data/Ethernet, heating system controls and trying to chase in a new socket to an old brick wall with lime plaster - no visible damage allowed! (Ok maybe not the last one)
 

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MICC was common for fire alarms and industrial control gear many years ago. I guess the appearance of FP rated wire and the time/cost of installing pyro means it is fairly specialised use now. Shame, as it is practically immortal and looked fabulous if bare and polished up!
I would suggest that there appears to be some instances where its being ripped out - possibly unnecessarily, simply because the electrician of the day doesn't know what to do with it.
 

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Can’t see the point of having SY as part of the exam personally.

Be better off with data/Ethernet, heating system controls and trying to chase in a new socket to an old brick wall with lime plaster - no visible damage allowed! (Ok maybe not the last one)
In all seriousness I think heating controls, solar pv and car charging installation would be far more beneficial these days than micc and sy
 

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Spoke to one of the apprentices today, apparently he has done MICC as part of a college assessment, but it is no longer part of the AM2. I certainly remember doing it when I did the AM2. At least they have kept in steel conduit...
 

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Even if you don't have the tools or skills, surely you can recognise an MICC cable??!!
Maybe not when you are out of your depth

Given the longevity of Pyro and the many different types of installation it has been used in over the years it is a bit daft that it is not even given a mention on courses these days

Given the possible problems of glanding that pyro properly I think I would be replacing that earth clamp with some constant force springs to clamp the cable to the sheath to maintain the earthing
 

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I would suggest that there appears to be some instances where its being ripped out - possibly unnecessarily, simply because the electrician of the day doesn't know what to do with it.
Ripped out and replaced by inferior cable types is usually the norm

The number of times I've seen on forums rip it out and replace it with FP, FP is not and will never be a direct replacement for Pyro IMO
 

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