Make it simple for Dummies.

[littlespark]

to a trained eye .yes.

In Scottish that's "to a trained eye, Aye?"
In Geordie that's "to a trained eye, wae-aye,pet"
In Piratetalk that's "to a trained eye.. aye-aye, Me hearties"


I will be printing off that link myself. Red tape into common sense English

 

[Octopus]

Across the border the Completion Certificates there consist of:

1 page.

To my mind that is a far more sensible approach!

Could you upload a PDF example for us to have a look at?

 

[JK-Electrical]

Could you upload a PDF example for us to have a look at?

I second that proposal.

 

[ipf]

Could you upload a PDF example for us to have a look at?

Well, there's one for the firing squad....

I second that proposal.

….and two.

Ah well, let's make it three......sounds good to me.

 

[JK-Electrical]

Well, there's one for the firing squad....

….and two.

Ah well, let's make it three......sounds good to me.

The motion is carried. Let's see the merchandidse then Risteard.

 

[ipf]

The motion is carried. Let's see the merchandidse then Risteard.

Be giving a few people some sort of motion, will that!

 

[Risteard]

Samples here:

https://safeelectric.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Certificate-No.-1-Sample.pdf

https://safeelectric.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Certificate-No.-2-Sample.pdf

https://safeelectric.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Certificate-No.-3-Sample.pdf

(There are also electronic versions of Cert #1 and Cert #2)

 

[JK-Electrical]

Thanks Risteard. What a vast improvement these certificates are on the ones we use over here!

 

[ipf]

Thanks Risteard. What a vast improvement these certificates are on the ones we use over here!

Because they're meant for a fully qualified electrician, maybe?

 

[Risteard]

Thanks Risteard. What a vast improvement these certificates are on the ones we use over here!

I should add that when Cert No. 3 was introduced it came with a requirement to attach a copy of the Test Record Sheet (essentially the equivalent of the Schedule of Test Results) - but this is a new requirement so does not apply to Cert Nos. 1 or 2 at this time.

Cert No. 1 is essentially for domestic (and small commercial) - anything less than 50kVA.

Cert No. 2 is essentially for industrial (and large commercial) - anything greater than or equal to 50kVA.

Cert No. 3 is for existing installations only and cannot be used to get a supply from the DSO.

Agricultural installations have a supplementary agricultural cert, and people only certifying part of an installation (e.g. lift installation) supply a Sub-system Certificate.

 

[dksanders]

who will do ............... absolutely nothing.

Not true, they'll issue a new amendment then charge you £100's to comply with it.

 

[NDG Elecs]

I'm not remotely a fan of these schedules. I think they are unnecessary and confusing.

For example:

1.3 Distributor's earthing arrangement

3.1 (a) Distributor's earthing arrangement or installation earth electrode arrangement

So which is relevant to the Distributor's earthing arrangement?

To my mind these boxes serve no purpose whatsoever. (And I don't just mean the ones mentioned - I mean all of them. A simple signature that the installation has been inspected against the Requirements of BS7671 should be adequate instead of pages upon pages of crap.

Hear Hear Risteard. Spot on post that.

I would like to what the plain English campaign would make of the various forms, especially the checklists - it's gobbledygook to Joe and Josephine Public..

 

[NDG Elecs]

Duplicate....