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alannotts

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Can there be a combination of meters inside and outside the building. For example I have flats above a shop the, shop has its meters on the outside wall, due to the available space its better that the meters for the flats go inside the flats. The supplier of the meters and electric thinks its not possible to have some meters outside and some inside even though they are seperate entities, the reason given was due to safety of isolation in an emergency?
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Amp David

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Is it one supply into the building that is serving multiple flats etc?

If so then you can sub meter inside each flat no worries.
 
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alannotts

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At present there is no self supply into the flats, the electric is being ran via the shop and this is about to change and the flats are to become self sufficent however the supplier indictates that as the shop meters are on the outside wall the flat meters also need to be on the outside walls, he has said that there cant bbe a mix of outside and inside meters due to safety of isolation in an emergency?
 

telectrix

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sounds like a load of bull**** to me. since when did meters have a facility for isolation?
 

Amp David

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Are they putting new supplies into these flats?

If not then the supplier won't be metering, right?

Internal sub meters and nothing to do with the supplier.
 
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ayjay

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sounds like a load of bull**** to me. since when did meters have a facility for isolation?
the digital ones have a switch built into them, you operate it with a screwdriver
 
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Knobhead

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the digital ones have a switch built into them, you operate it with a screwdriver
A photograph of one of these weird beasts would be interesting.
 
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Bobster

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A photograph of one of these weird beasts would be interesting.
I'd also like to see a switch capable of breaking fault current operated via a screwdriver.

Unless it operated a control circuit for a buoy in contacter, even then it's not isolation.
 

Taylortwocities

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the digital ones have a switch built into them, you operate it with a screwdriver
This is the old style digital meters. Not the new Smart Meters.

DECC's decision was not to impletent an isolation switch in Smart Meters. They said

Following consideration of consultation responses, and further work with stakeholders, the Government has decided that the functionality will not be included in the SMETS, but that the Government will work with the relevant regulatory authorities to develop a process to help stakeholders find an alternative solution.

The whole document can be viewed here http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/11/consultation/smart-metering-imp-prog/4965-gov-resp-cons-tech-spec-smart-meters.pdf
 

telectrix

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that statement sums it all up. transalated into plain english it says " we've had a meeting of the committee, at a cost to the taxpayer of £4sqiullion , and after careful consideration over 15 bottles of single malt, also at taxpayers expense, we have decided that we can't decide, so put the matter forward for an even bigger, more expensive committee, which all 27 members of said committee will require full expenses, a 4 day stay on a £5billion yacht in the mediterreanean, whilst making their deliberations."
 
that statement sums it all up. transalated into plain english it says " we've had a meeting of the committee, at a cost to the taxpayer of £4sqiullion , and after careful consideration over 15 bottles of single malt, also at taxpayers expense, we have decided that we can't decide, so put the matter forward for an even bigger, more expensive committee, which all 27 members of said committee will require full expenses, a 4 day stay on a £5billion yacht in the mediterreanean, whilst making their deliberations."
Ha ha so true...

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