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All qualifications for an electrician in this country are actually optional. Competence is all that's legally required and experience with no paperwork can prove competence.

NVQ is not needed at all imo, it's a box ticking exercise. Most people actually get someone else to write it up for them nowadays. So you take pictures and send them off, then you get your cert.

18th edition and testing and inspection are the ones i'd look for if employing someone.
 

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I work in heavy industry for a major multinational company ,the role is for Shift maintenance electricians.

the interview is gauging experience and our level of competence but from a company perspective I cannot offer if they are not qualified electricians.

The above hasnt been a problem until the last couple of months. The shortage in industrial electricians and the number of openings means agencies are sending us anyone (including a welder who wasnt even an electrician last week!)
The agencies are all about getting paid for sending you potential candidates as mentioned in another thread the 18th edition and a 2391 and the agencies will find you work and you just copy what everyone else is doing
I never done the tech course (known as the C course)
Not many stuck it out at college for the extra 2 years, it's just over 40 years since I passed it and I did the last college year 3 nights a week 6 - 9pm as my employer wouldn't allow me day release
The C course and exam was discontinued in 2007 as the pass rate had fallen to an unsustainable level
 

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All qualifications for an electrician in this country are actually optional. Competence is all that's legally required and experience with no paperwork can prove competence.
So if you are unfornate enough to end up speaking to people wearing funny wigs who put expert witnesses with armfuls of qualifications against you where do you honestly think you will stand with your argument as your defence
NVQ is not needed at all imo, it's a box ticking exercise. Most people actually get someone else to write it up for them nowadays. So you take pictures and send them off, then you get your cert.
This is about the only thing I can agree with you on
18th edition and testing and inspection are the ones i'd look for if employing someone.
With no core qualifications to back them up IMO they are useless bits of paper, I'm surprised you actually think you need the 18th edition when all you need to do is read the book and the 2391 isn't the exam it was since it became all multiple choice with a 1 in 4 chance of finding the right answer
 

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Really all depends on what role they are taking on. Lamp changer? Domestic, Commercial, or industrial? Street lighting and so on. The current industry standard is NVQ level 3 with portfolio and AM2. They would need 18th edition and Pasma etc. is icing on the cake so to speak. As to experience for domestic a couple of years, whereas for industrial maybe five years. Perhaps a 2391-02 could help, as I say all depends on the role they are applying for. And anyway in theory you could take on a learner who is supervised, much cheaper and train them. So many permutations really.
 

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