New build ring circuit regulations -help please

[Davehaywire]

In a new build , I have noticed how the Sparks that have wired the house (4 bed 3 storey town house)

They have put the kitchen appliances sockets/kitchen worktop sockets/boiler fcu/1st floor sockets/2nd floor sockets on a 32A ring and the ground floor sockets only 4 sockets on another 32A ring.

personally I would of kept the kitchen ring separate from any other sockets, even worktop/appliances separate
and each floor on its own ring in an ideal world, separate circuit boiler fcu etc etc

I know they do things on the cheap to get these houses up.

Does anyone knows the regulation on keeping the kitchen ring separate from other sockets due to
loading , is there one? or can they get away with wiring like this

i also noticed the Sparks have used a Megger electrical cert and client has no cert back from building control to certify the electrical works

 

[davesparks]

What exactly do you mean by 'noticed'? You'd have to be looking pretty hard to just notice things like that.

The story has a slight whiff of kippers about it.

 

[Davehaywire]

Noticed as I looked round it very briefly and looked at the cert on a pdf nothing whiffy

 

[Octopus]

Noticed as I looked round it very briefly and looked at the cert on a pdf nothing whiffy

Looked around briefly???

as a spark yourself, what is your opinion?

 

[Davehaywire]

Please read my thread before posting a pointless answer

 

[Octopus]

Please read my thread before posting a pointless answer

Please re read my response and give me a sensible answer!

 

[davesparks]

Noticed as I looked round it very briefly and looked at the cert on a pdf nothing whiffy

Do you work in the domestic sector at all?

 

[Davehaywire]

My opinion is in my original post , I'm asking for advice on the regulation

 

[Octopus]

My opinion is in my original post , I'm asking for advice on the regulation

my opinion, nothing wrong with it!

 

[Paul.M]

Please Gents.


Reg will come under segregation of circuits btw.

 

[davesparks]

My opinion is in my original post , I'm asking for advice on the regulation

I'm lost, which regulation do you want advice on? A regulation number would help!

 

[Octopus]

Please Gents.


Reg will come under segregation of circuits btw.

paul, my response was intended to provoke against a pretty ****** op. My money is on the cert being wrong, so only a proper test will determine what has actually been installed. A quick look around would NOT reveal this

 

[Davehaywire]

So if a fault was to occur on the fore mentioned ring the whole house power and boiler would be off

Slight inconvenience I think

not very well thought out

 

[Paul.M]

paul, my response was intended to provoke against a pretty ******* op. My money is on the cert being wrong, so only a proper test will determine what has actually been installed. A quick look around would NOT reveal this

He may be only going by the cert that has been issued/seen:- "Megger electrical cert". This is his question imho? + any reg that this may be against.

 

[Octopus]

So if a fault was to occur on the fore mentioned ring the whole house power and boiler would be off

Slight inconvenience I think

not very well thought out

its still better than the muppets who install boards with a single RCD.

I STILL don't understand how you can conclude the cert you have seen is actually a correct reflection of the installation.....

 

[Davehaywire]

I just asking for opinions on how a new build has managed to have been signed off by the builders with pretty much 1 circuit for power for the whole house ,barring 4 sockets ground floor, is this common place for new builds these days, haven't got regs handy to look up

 

[Davehaywire]

The cert is dated 16 dec and was in the homebuyers pack why would it not be a true reflection of the installation, there are only 2 ring circuits
1 ground floor sockets x4
2 kitchen/1st/2nd/boiler fcu

 

[Paul.M]

The cert is dated 16 dec and was in the homebuyers pack why would it not be a true reflection of the installation, there are only 2 ring circuits
1 ground floor sockets x4
2 kitchen/1st/2nd/boiler fcu

Thank you for the info and yes that is pretty poor for any install.

 

[123]

Sounds poor, are there separate circuits for the likes of Fridge Freezer/Tumble Dryer/Washing Machine etc?

 

[davesparks]

The cert is dated 16 dec and was in the homebuyers pack why would it not be a true reflection of the installation, there are only 2 ring circuits
1 ground floor sockets x4
2 kitchen/1st/2nd/boiler fcu

Its a fairly standard, if somewhat outdated approach. Its based on the logic that bedrooms rarely have anu significant load on them so hey share a ring with the kitchen then the rest of the ground floor goes on another ring, unusual to see that approach applied to what sounds like a small area per floor.

Id likely have done one ring for groundfloor and another for the other two floors, but impossible to say for certain. They may have been working to a spec from a higher power.