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Hi all. Firstly i appreciate theres probably posts on this very subject and believe me i have looked. Have found posts on people buying new but not upgrading. Anyway i have my nic domestic installer assessment due relatively soon. I have both red osg and regs book. Do i definately need to buy both new in green or are there ammendments to 1 or both of them? I was under the impression until recently you would only need to buy new after a totally new edition was published? Mo money, mo money!!!Cheers in advance and please could we keep the sarcasm to a bare minimum!! After recent open wallet surgery i could do without it all!!!
 
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Yeah have looked at amazon. 115 quid for the 3 books. Ouch! Was hoping to buy/download a printable ammendment for the regs at least
 

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There were too many adjustments and introductions for the creation of a download. Unfortunately everybody has had to re-purchase a new Regs book. There was a lot of hoo-hah about it back then too!
 

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there is no amendment. it's a complete new book. IET bods need new suits.

maybe you can hang on for the 18th. that's bound to be next year. :devil2:
 
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Yeah have looked at amazon. 115 quid for the 3 books. Ouch! Was hoping to buy/download a printable ammendment for the regs at least
You can get them cheaper, i paid £43 for my BGB and £23 for GN3 from amazon including delivery, haven't bought the new OSG yet though.
 
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Definately getting stung in this trade. Having recently finished my 2391 in college iv only had the brb about 2 years. Buy the bgb now then whats stopping them bringing further ammendments out again before the 18th edition
 
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You can get them cheaper, i paid £43 for my BGB and £23 for GN3 from amazon including delivery, haven't bought the new OSG yet though.
Wow that is cheap I got it £55 and thought I was a winner. Its still in the shrink wrap though :29:
 
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I guess the winning question is, if you were running the show and could get away with it thus swelling your coffers, would you ?

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43 quid is cheap fair play. Well when i say cheap......like i said i have my nic assessment pending so looks like gonna have to bite the bullet an upgrade. More choccy hob nobs for the iet it is
 

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while we are discussing books etc I will remind people not to buy the current code of practice for in service inspection and testing of electrical equipment (the purple PAT Book)- unless they absolutely have to - as it is currently under review and scheduled to be republished in November.

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Borrowed that 1 from college when i did the pat testing exams. Found it a bit fragmented. Info all over the shop. Not properly categorized like regs. Just my opinion!
 
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linetech

Evening all!

Having the osg red, brb & the previous edition gn3 I wonder if you have to have the new "Electricians Guide to the Building Regulations" Not sure! One thing I am sure of is we are all being shafted. No wonder you see sets of books, meters & tools being sold on ebay. The outlay in this game is a joke especially if your starting out..
 

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I was well miffed when I shelled out for the red books and within a year I needed to buy the green ones. The red books became worthless overnight. They are sitting on the shelf collecting dust - can't even sell 'em on Feebay. Wouldn't be so bad if they were actually affordable - or at the very least gold plated to justify the over-inflated price. It's a classic example of being had over a barrel - we have to have these books so they charge whatever they like for them. It's actually insulting if you think about it too much - which I am trying not to do!
 
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Just shows you just what a state this trade is in we go head first into a recession and they decide to review everything from the regs C&G exams PIR/EICRs I could go on but then again they dont seem to care how much pressure in money terms it costs us because they know you have to get the updates why because they are the ones who asses you anywhere else this would be extorting money for financial gain or am I being cynical
 

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al capone would have been proud of the extortion. maybe if we got the IET to distill illicit moonshine, they'd find it more profitable and leave us alone.
 

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al capone would have been proud of the extortion. maybe if we got the IET to distill illicit moonshine, they'd find it more profitable and leave us alone.

I heard through the grapevine that the byb was in the process of being assembled. It probably won't reach the shelves until 2015 though.
 

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I heard through the grapevine that the byb was in the process of being assembled. It probably won't reach the shelves until 2015 though.
It makes you wonder how they can keep coming up with new stuff , I wonder what they have come up with this time to justify a new edition and all the associated publications. I'm not going to buy any more at my age , I'm just going to rely on you lot to keep me going IF I can keep going lol.
 
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The thing is if you ran a job like this ie rewire a house then popping in every 6 months to change things then charge for it and the customer says why you can reply how else can I keep myself in a job and get a gold plated pension plus get some mug to pay for it
ug to pay for it
 

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That's part of the game...

Have a priviledged background, go to the best school that money can buy, Oxbridge, get your 'gentlemans third', network with the chaps at the club, end up in the city, make pots of money, sit on a few committees and write some amendments to 'the BS 300th Amd 'shoeing horses with a stun gun' retire early..

easy.....
 
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2015 christ I am only 55 does that mean me going back to college do you think the public realise what we mear mortals have to go through
 
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I was informed by our regional engineer that there is an amendment being worked on now. The 15th/16th editions went through the same process - Red, Green, Yellow, Blue Brown - New Edition. Apparantly it is driven by European harmonisation etc.. etc.. £80...etc...etc
 
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Just shows you just what a state this trade is in we go head first into a recession and they decide to review everything from the regs C&G exams PIR/EICRs I could go on but then again they dont seem to care how much pressure in money terms it costs us because they know you have to get the updates why because they are the ones who asses you anywhere else this would be extorting money for financial gain or am I being cynical
I think you make quite a good point here.

It's fair enough updating the regs to encompass new technology and improvements in standards but, seeing as we're in perpetual recession at the moment, maybe the IET, C&G etc could drip feed these changes, via free downloads etc., to ease the financial burden a bit.

I pointed out recently that I'd read somewhere that the number of Green editions sold is a small percentage of the number of electricians in the UK. Might have been on IET site but I can't find it again.
 

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I hate the colour Yellow. Its soo garden flowers and chintz. I prefer the brown, that colour looks more like a technical manual.

But to the point in hand. Updating your qualifications, as the chief C&G assessor once told me, was only really necessary when the edition changed. So there are a few more colours and a decade to go first.

Having said that, there is so much information from sites like this one where you can get useful information on the latest developments, its unlikely that you will get left behind as long as you keep on the ball.
 
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I can understand why a lot of older sparks 60 + are just point blank refusing to go for the updates

Just to add this is just jobs worth and job creation because they are so inept what was wrong with doing it all in one big change instead of this peace meal approuch
 

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we keep on the ball, while the IET and the scam providers hold on tight to the gravy train.
 
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i no the byb is in the pipe line and told its going to be out next year which meens again a new osg amd gn1,2,3,4,5,6,7
 
So, the roumor becomes reality, the 18 th ? another forum member hinted this a few days ago. £400.- for the course, £100 for the books, what next?
 

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As current technology stands tell me how they can improve it ? the regs I mean ? the game has had RCD's in one form or another for decades but they danced around them, then it was EEBADS, then ADS it's all bollox, physics don't change, whats next ? FKD if I know !
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Silly Sausage

I was referring to the PV & surge protection stuff as the main ones, plus the various tweaks.
At heart, the basics don't change, unless physics is warping in some way that IET have inside knowledge on!
Still got Yellow, Blue & Brown books to go before 18th.
 

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As current technology stands tell me how they can improve it ? the regs I mean ? the game has had RCD's in one form or another for decades but they danced around them, then it was EEBADS, then ADS it's all bollox, physics don't change, whats next ? FKD if I know !
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Time travel, Mind over Matter and a good body transporter. Bring it on Spock.
 

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I suspect they are preparing a colourless version called the 19th edition in harmonizing the changes in the physics of electrons since CERN have found a particle that travels faster than light. So it should be out before the 18th.
 
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A brain implant chip is the way to go.
No more books to trawl through and instant access to what you're looking for.
Amendment updates would be cheaper, plug yourself in for the latest download.
 

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