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marty1234

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hi guys my assesment on site is in 2 weeks any help or tips
 
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thomsonminis

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like all paperwork and test sheets up to date all the books they tell u to have meter calibrated to date or record of your own testing of your meter they asked me to show how i dealt with customer complaints they allways seem to make me do same tests every time they come safe isolation ze test ring continuity r1 r2 for ring circuit
 
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iceman

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im goin with nic aswell for my major i done a complete rewire at my house and for minor im goin to do a spur off a ring final circuit at a house im renting out anybody knw if i gotta inform building control prior to my assesment, to be honest its gona be a pain in the **** if i gotta do tht its like i gotta pay twice for me assesment :-/ lol
 
im goin with nic aswell for my major i done a complete rewire at my house and for minor im goin to do a spur off a ring final circuit at a house im renting out anybody knw if i gotta inform building control prior to my assesment, to be honest its gona be a pain in the **** if i gotta do tht its like i gotta pay twice for me assesment :-/ lol
you are supposed to inform labc before you start the work not once its done :eek:
depends on who your assessor is as to whether they mark you down on it as you havent gone through the correct procedure and they would have to take your word for it regarding cable routes etc now the job is finished.:rolleyes:
 
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marty1234

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i have had my first visit so on site in 2 weeks i am doing the approved installer . i have to get a test box so i can test my meter my self not sure what one to get .
 
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Spudnik

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You do not need a test box at all as far as im aware.

Some assessors are quite happy with a labelled socket in the kitchen for example, with a record sheet for the checks.

Maybe you could ask?
 
You do not need a test box at all as far as im aware.

Some assessors are quite happy with a labelled socket in the kitchen for example, with a record sheet for the checks.

Maybe you could ask?
i have got one that does continuity and insulation resistance and then use a designated socket for loop and rcd tests ;)
satisfies the requirements for nic;)
 
Thats why im not with them:D:D:D:D
very handy bit of kit to have though, especially if you are on site and getting strange readings from your meter :eek:
handy to have a box of known values to confirm against and all for under 20 quid as well or cheaper if you make your own ;)

also the op relates to nic, as does my answer :p
 
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Spudnik

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very handy bit of kit to have though, especially if you are on site and getting strange readings from your meter :eek:
handy to have a box of known values to confirm against and all for under 20 quid as well or cheaper if you make your own ;)

also the op relates to nic, as does my answer :p
Gotta be honest, i am considering a box of some sort.

Like you said, handy as a quick check regardless.
:)
 
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marty1234

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i priced on to day in eddies £160 quid there are cheaper on the market i will have a look tonight on the net . i think it will be a handy bit off kit to have
 
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kung

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very handy bit of kit to have though, especially if you are on site and getting strange readings from your meter :eek:
handy to have a box of known values to confirm against and all for under 20 quid as well or cheaper if you make your own ;)

also the op relates to nic, as does my answer :p
Hi Flukey
Is this a cal check box ? havent seen them for £20 only over £100 wheres cheapest ?
Regards
Kung.
 
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Guest123

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I got me one of them.

Cheap as chips and does exactly what is says on the tin.:D
 
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marty1234

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lenny where did you get it
 
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kung

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Where did you get it from ? seen it before but dont remember where.
Regards
Kung
 
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Guest123

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Hey.

I did get mine from CEF, but not for £49.99 though. I got lucky they had so many of them because no-one was buying that they halved the price.

I believe these little fealla's are also available on that auction site for a lot less, well worth a quick search.:D
 
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iceman

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iv booked my assesment with elecsa today i wanted to go wiv nic but because i had to notify building control prior to my assesment witch was goin to cost me 400quid for my 2jobs major and minor i changed me mind and went the elecsa roote, i spoke to a lady at nic she said thy dont notify buildin control for your first assesment witch i thinks mad because thay are a buildin control body it would of cost me nearly 900 quid to join nic with there fee and buildin control its a joke lol elecsa fee 414 and thts for full scope abit of diffrence dont ya think ;-)
 
iv booked my assesment with elecsa today i wanted to go wiv nic but because i had to notify building control prior to my assesment witch was goin to cost me 400quid for my 2jobs major and minor i changed me mind and went the elecsa roote, i spoke to a lady at nic she said thy dont notify buildin control for your first assesment witch i thinks mad because thay are a buildin control body it would of cost me nearly 900 quid to join nic with there fee and buildin control its a joke lol elecsa fee 414 and thts for full scope abit of diffrence dont ya think ;-)
its your choice to involve labc, as i said before i dont think nic assessor can fail you for not notifying but he will mark it as a non compliance :eek:

i chose nic as thats the name that everyone knows and that is their first port of call ;)

my local labc only charge £50 + vat to notify if you are a qualified spark
 
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Spudnik

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mine was an ebay bargain 22 quid delivered. same box in cef 49.99 :eek:
if you want the details jason let me know and i will pm you ;)
thanks for the offer, but i have just read the latest Elecsa rag and they have a 'CalCard' for £20.

Looks about the size of a credit card and, they say, if you can prove consistent results using this, or any other method, that you neednt have your meters calibrated every year?:confused:?

Not sure about that to be honest.
 
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Guest123

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No indeed. I check mine every month with my check box and test socket and record results. Then send it away every 12 months to be calibrated properly.

Any more info on this card thingy J??
 
thanks for the offer, but i have just read the latest Elecsa rag and they have a 'CalCard' for £20.

Looks about the size of a credit card and, they say, if you can prove consistent results using this, or any other method, that you neednt have your meters calibrated every year?:confused:?

Not sure about that to be honest.
thats right jason. nic say that as long as you keep monthly records with one of these gizmos theres no need for annual calibration:D
my nic assessor said its been 6 years since he had his calibrated :eek:
annual calibration is only checking against known values like this anyway :rolleyes:

looked at that calcard but reckoned i would have more chance of losing that so went for the bigger more robust box that will always be in my way in the toolbox :p
 
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iceman

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hi fluky so ya sayin i could book my nic assesment without notifyin labc and i could still pass my assesment???
 
hi fluky so ya sayin i could book my nic assesment without notifyin labc and i could still pass my assesment???
best speak to them first. i was told that it is a non compliance not a failure.
as long as you dont have too many non compliances you should be ok imo
 
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Guest123

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Mmmm, seems a bit jokey to me.

Think I'll stick with what I've got.:)
 
Mmmm, seems a bit jokey to me.

Think I'll stick with what I've got.:)
me too lenny ;)
my ones got proper connections that the leads fit into, these look flat :confused:
 
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Spudnik

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Come on chaps.

Move with the times!:D
 
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Spudnik

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you can be the guinea pig with this one jason, keep us posted on how it performs ;)

this is the sort of thing you only buy once so best to buy right :p
Will do.

Going to try and blag one from Elecsa.
 
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Guest123

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Blagging stuff, a man after my own heart.:D:D
 
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kung

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Let us know how you get on Jason we might blag one to !
 
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kung

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Hi Flukey
Is this a cal check box ? havent seen them for £20 only over £100 wheres cheapest ?
Regards
Kung.
Just got the socket & see CB200 £171 was going to get cheaper one but this does cont/insu/loop/rcd 30ma as i would have got the cheaper and used a known socket at home but knowing my luck id get a dodgy rcd and another then have to go back home to test meter so at least i can do all checks onsite also have to use my old CU supply board as non rcd to use the rcd test function of the checkbox or a socket not on rcd side ! bit of a pain also for the price it wouldnt hurt to put a proving function on them for your voltage testers to prove circuit dead ! bit of a rip off the price of proving units.
 
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