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Vassy

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Hi, I have been working in the telecomms industry for the past 5 yrs as a contractor and am looking to widen my horizons so to speak. I was wondering if anyone has heard of OCLI construction training? They are offering me a course that gives me, at the end:
C&G level 2 (2330),
C&G level 3 (2330),
17th edition IEE wiring regulations C&G 2382-10,
Inspection & testing C&G 2391,
Applicable building regs (part P),
level 3 Certificate for in service inspections and testing of electrical equiptment- portable appliance testing (C&G 2377)
EAL level 2 certificate for domestic electrical installers.

They offer this as a study at home course where visit training centres for practical work when can. The course costs £5500. What i want to know is will i be fully qualified to work as an electrician, either on pay roll or self employed and are the qualifications the right ones. I've heard about people doing this kind of course and employers not recognising the qualification. £5500 is a lot to spend if going to be a waste.

Any help is welcome.
Thanks
 
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tony.towa

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Looks a pretty comprehensive list to me covering what you need to know.

Don't know what the costing is like but I reckon Shakey will be able to put you 100% right when he has had a look. He has a wealth of knowledge on training and technical aspects.

Welcome to the forum. Don't forget to put an entry in the New Member's Introductions section
 
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Shakey

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Hi, I have been working in the telecomms industry for the past 5 yrs as a contractor and am looking to widen my horizons so to speak. I was wondering if anyone has heard of OCLI construction training? They are offering me a course that gives me, at the end:
C&G level 2 (2330),
C&G level 3 (2330),
17th edition IEE wiring regulations C&G 2382-10,
Inspection & testing C&G 2391,
Applicable building regs (part P),
level 3 Certificate for in service inspections and testing of electrical equiptment- portable appliance testing (C&G 2377)
EAL level 2 certificate for domestic electrical installers.

They offer this as a study at home course where visit training centres for practical work when can. The course costs £5500. What i want to know is will i be fully qualified to work as an electrician, either on pay roll or self employed and are the qualifications the right ones. I've heard about people doing this kind of course and employers not recognising the qualification. £5500 is a lot to spend if going to be a waste.

Any help is welcome.
Thanks
it looks like you are getting more than you actually are:

the 'applicable building regs part p' is not a seperate qual, it is unit one out of the EAL course!

And 2377, are you getting both parts? Lots of places offer it, but only give you part 2 which is useless by itself

We dont offer the 2391 'straight off' to people starting from scratch, it is nearly always to much for them, we get them through the 2392 first, then they do the 2391 when they have got a bit more experience

good luck anyway!
 
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Vassy

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Thanks for your help so far guys, It does say you get both parts to the 2377. The literature i have says the course is built in 3 steps..

Step 1 :prepares you for the C&G 2330 Electrotechnical Technology Certificate level 2.

Step 2: prepares you for the C&G 2330 Electrotechnical Technology Certificate level 3.

Step 3: Gain NVQ while working on site.

Did choose the course because work away from home a lot so have to train to fit round my life at the moment. They start with the basics and move you on the the higher courses as progress.
 
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niggy

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I am new to this site and in exactly the same position as you, Vassey, wanting to expand but nervous of doing the wrong course. So far I have only found one major criticism of OCLI and I was recommended to them by Learn Direct who were very helpful on the subject. I am happy to pay what it costs but cannot afford to get it wrong. I will keep you informed of anything I discover and would be grateful for any advice. You do seem like a helpful and supportive group, thanks.
 
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Vassy

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Sounds like we are in the same boat Niggy. Dont mind the cost if is fair and am paying for what i need. I am expecting a call from OLCI soon and have a few questions ready, will let you knkw how it goes. I'm new her too and finding this site very helpfull too....Thought good people were few and far between these days, Glad proved wrong :)

P.S. what was your one major criticism of OCLI by the way?
 
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niggy

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Halo again. To answer your question, my son found a site a bit like watchdog where they investigate your problems with goods and services and someone had approached them about OCLI. he was training as a plumber and found that the course he was expecting to do was cancelled due to their being too few attendees. He pushed them for his money back and eventually, with help, he got a refund. So, it is not a huge criticism of them and I have seen mixed comments elsewhere although generally not bad. It is a lot of money though and I feel their approach is a little bit pushy and 'salesman' like which makes me nervous. Rather than a straight answer it tends to be a bit ' everything will be fine, dont worry about it'. I asked how often they run course at the nearest centre and was told they would send out a scheduel when I signed up - why not just tell me now so I know. I am in a hurry to get this training and do not want to find I cannot do the next step because there is no classroom time availble or whatever. Anyway I am going to do a bit more research this afternoon and will keep you informed. Cheers, Nig
 
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Vassy

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HI, I am in your exact position, well sound very much the same. Do foind them pushy and more salesmen like. have been looking at a side and input my details, they ring you back...not done yet but supposed to. your interested in looking.

Thanks
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chris34947

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Hi Niggy,

I think I have agreed to sign up for the same course as you at the Skills Centre, have you had any further feedback on the course and the actual outcome at the end?

Thanks

Chris
 
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Vassy

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Hi Chris and niggy.I wrang to see about prices and qualifications gained with the skills Centre and they just made an oppointment for a rep to come and see me at home. On the day of the appointment the rep wrang me to say he is running late and is that ok. I said yes but explained all i was after to day is qualifications gained and price of courses. He then seemed to loose interest and said the prices are £5250 for basic electrian training and £6950 for the full one that allows you to plan wireing routes for new builds and reworks ???. Didnt bother coming for the appointment as wasnt signing up today and could claw back some time to put him on track for rest of day.

Wasnt impressed by his attitude once learnt that i just wanted info to compare with OLCI. Let me know how you found the skills Centre towards you plz and how the course is going chris, looking to sign up next week for one....just not sure which one yet.
 
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chris34947

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The advisor did come round to see me, had a chat but I hadn't seen this site before I signed up. It did feel a bit like he was trying to sell to me and made a lot of promises, so I am a little unsure now I may ring up a cancel....
 
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The choice is your at the end to go learn with them but you have to know that its sometimes hard to find dates that suite your needs for practicals and theres not alot of support from them, the teachers are just people who are retired electricians (The London centre has only 2 electricians!). So dont expects great stuff from them. Although im doing the course with OLCI, Im learning through lots of external sources such as text books off the net due to OLCIs books are full of mistakes and very less explanation. If your a newcomer to the electrical knowledge, I don't recommend this place. When im finished with this place im just going to do the other Inspecting and Testing and 17th Edition with a local college. Hope this make is clear for anyone that interested.

P.S. The advisers on the phone arent assistance for your course needs they are 98% sales team the remaining 2% which are there to help for Q&A are always busy putting you on hold and sometime ask to call back or they say they will call back and you call you back like 2 month later! by then you'll either sort out your problem or finished that practical. Dissapointing stuff. Again i'll state this is the downside of the course.

If anybody asks you didnt hear it from me! ;)

Good Luck.
 
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jboy1888

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Hi guys i am new to the forum and stumbled upon it searching for courses that would qualify me as a fully qualified electrician. I have no recognized electrical qualifications apart from PAT Testing although i work in the industry. i am self employed and work in lighting maintenance but put myself under alot of pressure because people take it for granted your a spark and im just into relamp etc, so i obviously need to rectifiy that problem, i also came across OLCI a few months back but was unsure if the qualifications they where offering where nationally recognised and where you a "qualified electrician" in the end. Has anyone been through the adult learning route to becoming an electrician?
 
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Marc123

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Hi

I am to looking at the OLCI and The Skills Centre and am yet to decide, they both seem to claim the same things and offer very similar courses. Do you know if either own their own training centres? What course prices have you been quoted?

cheers
 
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mac.

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Guys
I'm brand new to this club.I'm in full time employment(not in this industry) and want to qualify so that I can take on small domestic electrical installations and self certify the work. I would be grateful if anyone can offer advice on how I can do this over a short time scale whilst maintaining my full time job.
I've had a look at OLCI but the more I read about them leads me to thinking that I might be wasting my hard earned cash.
Mac
 
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piggyitm

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I just rang OLCI about doing 2382 17th ed.What a shower of dog poo!The guys on the phone are salesmen,the price for a home study course was £345 plus regs and exam fee.I can go to my local college and get a tutor for 11 weeks for £295+regs+exam.Having done the 2391 and 236 part 1 and 2 and AM1 + AM2 I dont think I could ever have passed them without a proper college tuition,especially 2391!
 
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wayne

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hi piggy ,im replying about the exam on one post and the course on another!!!
re the course; i used electa course for about 50 pounds (been a while please check my earlier posts).as long as you know your way round the regs boook you'll be fine
 
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Vassy

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Cheers Bane, Found it a little daunting when 1st started but when you get your head round it, starts to make sense.

Vassy :)
 
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Shakey

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Cheers Bane, Found it a little daunting when 1st started but when you get your head round it, starts to make sense.

Vassy :)
Glad to see you made the right choice Vassy, get your studying under way, and me and Dinosaur will see you on your first week:)

Cheers Mr Bane:)
 
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hi
i too looked at OLCI the rep came pretty informative,told me about electrical installers course for £2230.
Informed me that if isigned up would have 14days cooling off period.
Thave have a 12 month start course now pay it off in 12 months scheme going which seemed ok.
i signed for it and after a couple of days tryed ringing them with questions but the people were totally abrupt and made me think again that if this is what you got before you started the course might not be up to much when it got going.
needless to say i emailed to cancel on the same day they sent all course material out.:)
now OLCI say i have to pay the return postage for 50kgs of books etc before they can cancel.
all in all i would never trust them again as they ignore emails and wont respond to phone calls in a professional manner:mad:
please dont make same mistake as me as i can sense this is goin to end in me complaining to a ombudsman.
 
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Bane

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Very sorry to hear that Bamboothy.

Hope it all gets resolved amicably.

Will you still be looking to pursue a career in electrics?

Welcome to the site.
 
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CUDABOY

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i had dealings with them before i found access training{who are on my blooming doorstep, 15 minuits away} doh! found them megga pushy,and realistically to expensive! im sorry but in my opinion distance learning to me is wrong,maybe in other subjects but here no.you gotta be in a room with people,do the 10 day in access training,eal and 17th,yes you will have to stay away but the £££ you will save pay your digs plus its 8 to 1 ratio,HANDS ON and run by humans! these people are sparkys etc you wont have to wait 12 months for certs,you couldnt get better guidance, shakey......are you reading this...lol. good luck with it whatever you do man.nathan.
 
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bamboothy

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hi

ive been a qualified auto electrician for 16 years so wanted to take up a different element of electrics.

i need to keep earning while training as many do but finding it extreamly hard to find right training course.;)

if anyone could reccommend a reliable , trustworthy company that can supplie a course please help..

cheers

brilliant forum:)
 
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mac.

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Guys
Thanks for the info on OLCI. you and this site have definately saved me from making a big mistake - and pardon this- kopping a fizzer.
Cheers fellas
Mac
 
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mac.

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Guys
you know if you get good advice and dont take it- because you "think" you know what you are doing and go ahead "playing" with electricity - well you are definately going to cop a tingle if not a heck of a lot worse- a real fizzer.
I've no intention of asking for advice and then ignoring it-then finding out that OLCI have given me a fizzer.
Cheers boys
Mac
 
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Dudek

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Hi Guys,

This post caught my eye as i have come here looking for help in regards to C&G 2330 level 2 which i signed up with through olci.

The pack they have sent me seems essentially very well put together but as i am struggling grasp some of the calculations and it could do with breaking down a bit more and going into some more detail.

Does anyone suggest any study aids to go along with this course.

I do have email support which i have used a couple of times which is ok but i dont want to be constantly bombarding them with questions.
 
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Shakey

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thanks again to Mr Bane and Cudaboy for singing our praises.

I deliberately set our student/tutor ratio at 8:1 when i designed the bays, i believe it is the optimum manageable number. I have heard horror stories of some training providers witha 35:1 ratio, guys are doing the course and never even use the meter!

As forum sponsors we can shamelessly push pur product, so click on the Access Training logo, you even get to see a picture of me! Hurrah!

Nathan, i will try and ring the NIC engineer tommorrow, just been mucho busy. He is a good friend of Dinosaur's as well, PM him and give him the gen, and he will give him a bell i'm sure, matey.
 
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CUDABOY

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ta man i can honestly say i really enjoyed it,have had training here and there over the years,most of them want to get the day over,theres your cert and bye! ive been down to access since for advice,you wont get that from some automiton over phone etc. got couple jobs lined up in bridgend for assesment,one i know what i a doing there will bell niciec and go from there, im not going to involve labc if i dont have to,be nice to speak to assesor prior to see what exactly hes looking for............euros, dollars,sterling ;lol!!! ps im sure i saw abdul <mohamed now changed his name > signing up for the plumbing course down there????
 
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equalizer

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Hi, I have been working in the telecomms industry for the past 5 yrs as a contractor and am looking to widen my horizons so to speak. I was wondering if anyone has heard of OCLI construction training? They are offering me a course that gives me, at the end:
C&G level 2 (2330),
C&G level 3 (2330),
17th edition IEE wiring regulations C&G 2382-10,
Inspection & testing C&G 2391,
Applicable building regs (part P),
level 3 Certificate for in service inspections and testing of electrical equiptment- portable appliance testing (C&G 2377)
EAL level 2 certificate for domestic electrical installers.

They offer this as a study at home course where visit training centres for practical work when can. The course costs £5500. What i want to know is will i be fully qualified to work as an electrician, either on pay roll or self employed and are the qualifications the right ones. I've heard about people doing this kind of course and employers not recognising the qualification. £5500 is a lot to spend if going to be a waste.

Any help is welcome.
Thanks
Hi Vassy,

I have been training with them most tutors in London are good but trying to get problems sorted out with the clerical staff is a nightmare. I took a part p course which was rushed no time to digest I was going to do full sparks course but I have told them no way!

They send the students vouchers that you are meant to be able to use against your courses I have been trying to use them since October (It's now nearly May) and they keep making excuses and ignoring so you can't use them. The course material has mistakes all over - considering we are dealing with safety it should be full proofed but no! Resources we should get we don't, they lose are mark sheets we send off to them.

They won't refund money that is owed.

My answer is if you want good training and DECENT customer service go else where other students have told me that won't go with olci again and I won't.

If they had resolved my issues then they would have got slightly better feed back, but as I have wasted so much money on calls and wasted time sending emails and recorded letters getting stressed out I got palputations and a rised blood pressure because of them. I now think their idiots.

Hope you read this before you waste your money, hopefully I will stop others having to go through the same hair pulling out head banging against the wall experience.
 
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jockieo

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Hello all
Ive been a mate for 3 years now and about an hour ago signed up to the OLCI course. Have I made a big mistake? Read through a few forums on the subject of OLCI and there isnt many positive views about the Course on any of them. Please can someone give me good news before my wife kills me for spunking 6 grand.
Jock
 
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equalizer

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Hello all
Ive been a mate for 3 years now and about an hour ago signed up to the OLCI course. Have I made a big mistake? Read through a few forums on the subject of OLCI and there isnt many positive views about the Course on any of them. Please can someone give me good news before my wife kills me for spunking 6 grand.
Jock
Hi jockie,

If you have only just done it then as long as it is within 14 days you can cancel it is the 14 day cooling off period, just phone them up on tuesday and cancel. I hope that it is within the 14 days if so you are lucky.
I had vouchers to use £300 in total which they won't give me the money, they keep lying to me when I phone them up they ignore my emails or if I leave messages on the subject. I am waiting a book that goes with my level 3 course and have had questions in the coursework asking what does the book regulation .... say on this subject write your answer here, I can't because I didn't get the book.

Let me know if your lucky or not.

The students I trained with said they were going to do other courses with a different company not olci, I was stupid I kept going with them because I was desparate to get both levels done in quick time didn't have time to look for a different company.
 
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Mac

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Hello all
Ive been a mate for 3 years now and about an hour ago signed up to the OLCI course. Have I made a big mistake? Read through a few forums on the subject of OLCI and there isnt many positive views about the Course on any of them. Please can someone give me good news before my wife kills me for spunking 6 grand.
Jock
£6000 is a lot of money to spend at the moment on training to be an electrician,especially the way work is in the UK for sparks.If you've been a mate for 3 years,you should have quite a bit of knowledge about sparking already. Can't your employer send you to college and they should be able to get money from the government to put you through the courses.May take a bit longer but in the long run you'd probably save yourself £3500.Hope this helps:)
 
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Hi Chris and niggy.I wrang to see about prices and qualifications gained with the skills Centre and they just made an oppointment for a rep to come and see me at home. On the day of the appointment the rep wrang me to say he is running late and is that ok. I said yes but explained all i was after to day is qualifications gained and price of courses. He then seemed to loose interest and said the prices are £5250 for basic electrian training and £6950 for the full one that allows you to plan wireing routes for new builds and reworks ???. Didnt bother coming for the appointment as wasnt signing up today and could claw back some time to put him on track for rest of day.

Wasnt impressed by his attitude once learnt that i just wanted info to compare with OLCI. Let me know how you found the skills Centre towards you plz and how the course is going chris, looking to sign up next week for one....just not sure which one yet.
Don't go with olci they have a take your money n get on with it attitude
not good at getting problems sorted, if you push them they will ignore you.
alot of money for extremely poor customer service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Halo again. To answer your question, my son found a site a bit like watchdog where they investigate your problems with goods and services and someone had approached them about OCLI. he was training as a plumber and found that the course he was expecting to do was cancelled due to their being too few attendees. He pushed them for his money back and eventually, with help, he got a refund. So, it is not a huge criticism of them and I have seen mixed comments elsewhere although generally not bad. It is a lot of money though and I feel their approach is a little bit pushy and 'salesman' like which makes me nervous. Rather than a straight answer it tends to be a bit ' everything will be fine, dont worry about it'. I asked how often they run course at the nearest centre and was told they would send out a scheduel when I signed up - why not just tell me now so I know. I am in a hurry to get this training and do not want to find I cannot do the next step because there is no classroom time availble or whatever. Anyway I am going to do a bit more research this afternoon and will keep you informed. Cheers, Nig
Do you know what the site is called? I got MAJOR problems with them, and need help!

kind regards
equalizer

hi

ive been a qualified auto electrician for 16 years so wanted to take up a different element of electrics.

i need to keep earning while training as many do but finding it extreamly hard to find right training course.;)

if anyone could reccommend a reliable , trustworthy company that can supplie a course please help..

cheers

brilliant forum:)
In NO circumstances olci, no way!!

Nice to your face getting the money then when you got problems and you ask to use the "bate" vouchers then you get ignored. I have left telephone messages about course dates and material and they don't phone back this was before I asked for the voucher money £300. If you don,t use a day say on nvq they won,t give that back either £332.12. and I am spending £9386 doing two courses. Scam.
 
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Mac

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Why don't you take a look at the clarksonevans website.They train all their sparks in-house and offer some decent courses at reasonable prices.A lot cheaper than OCLI:D
 
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jockieo

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£6000 is a lot of money to spend at the moment on training to be an electrician,especially the way work is in the UK for sparks.If you've been a mate for 3 years,you should have quite a bit of knowledge about sparking already. Can't your employer send you to college and they should be able to get money from the government to put you through the courses.May take a bit longer but in the long run you'd probably save yourself £3500.Hope this helps:)
Cheers for getting back to me,I have learnt a lot the last 3 years and really dont want to waste the experience gained. Unfortunately the company Ive been working for, like a lot of people have gone very quiet and I have found it hard to get any work with other companies. I have also been self employed for the last 3 years and a few incidents with the firm(not getting paid, trouble with claiming expenses and lengthy periods without work) i was working for have never encouraged me to enrol in college. I have recently had to get another job, I took the job as it gives me a lot of free time to easilly study at home and visit centres. Im hoping to keep my hand in by doing a few days with some of the fellas I have worked with over the last few years. Again cheers for getting back to me.
Jock
 
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gedo1979

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My Advise, Do Not Do The OLCI Route anyone, i mean anyone who does will have some sort of quibble whether it be salesmen lies, poor material or shocking customer services OLCI are pants.
You cannot do practical sessions when you want as they state and most of the time you are signed up for an NVQ level 3 in Electrical Installation only to be told 6 months later it is only the city & guilds 2330.
bad experience me and 3 others so far going to court with them and from different parts of the country.
anyone can contact me at [email protected] with experiences of a good or bad nature i'm sure there are plenty of past students who would advise against signing up with this company.
see Blagger.com - The place to leave feedback and comments about companies you have used for OLCI results before signing up for your lovely 0% finance and blattent lies.

Ged :mad:
 
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ang4567

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hello s een your post i ve just signed up with olci you said that you are always signed up to nvq 3 then told you that is only 2330 what do you mean . i am doing mine in newcastle cheers
 
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gedo1979

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hi
I mean the city & Guilds 2330 is not the NVQ level 3 in electrical maintenance/installation as advised by OLCI advisors.
the 2330 is a standard which makes you a partially qualified electrician and the NVQ3 makes you qualified i signed up for the qualified version but ended up with the 2330.

regards

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Gedo1979 is spot on the only way to gain NVQ/SVQ Level 3 qualified electrician status in Scotland anyhow is to go through the modern apprenticeship or adult apprenticeship schemes ran by SECTT im not sure who is responsible for it in other parts of the UK. The apprenticeship is based on C&G 2330 level 2 & 3 with a couple of others but to become qualified there is an element of on site work where you assessed in order to complete NVQ/SVQ Level 3. You can go on these courses ran by training centres to become "Competent" but you then have to join the likes of NICEIC etc in order to show you this.
 
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Gedo1979 is spot on the only way to gain NVQ/SVQ Level 3 qualified electrician status in Scotland anyhow is to go through the modern apprenticeship or adult apprenticeship schemes ran by SECTT im not sure who is responsible for it in other parts of the UK. The apprenticeship is based on C&G 2330 level 2 & 3 with a couple of others but to become qualified there is an element of on site work where you assessed in order to complete NVQ/SVQ Level 3. You can go on these courses ran by training centres to become "Competent" but you then have to join the likes of NICEIC etc in order to show you this.
Hi,

Yes its all a big con OLCI cannot train you to be a qualified Electrician.

They can only train you as far as a College can and at several hundreds of pounds less.

Would you pay £6000 for a quick 9 month course or £400 for the same?

And you would still not be qualified????

Bec
 
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jockieo

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This thread really makes for depressing reading, I am now enrolled on the OLCI course and have received my study material and too be honest I havent looked at it, I bought Lindleys book and have just used that, I have not attended any practical sessions yet, I think that will be the real acid test. I think people who are interested in the course have to really understand what the qualifications you obtain mean and of course realise that you aint getting the NVQ 3 through this course alone.
 
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johnymac

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I have come from Australia to do the C&G 2330 and was going to do it soon as with OLCI. When I got here I found this forum and saw all the bad reviews about OLCI so had a look around for other providers. I think it was tradeskills that I enquired about. They phoned me up one morning asking totally irrelevent questions and could not tell me how much the coarse costs and wanted to send a sales man around. I told them to get stuffed, at least OLCI could tell me how much they wanted.
Well things are not going as planned as I could only afford the coarse if I sold my car and cashed in my superannuation. Four months since getting here and I have only just sold my car and are still waiting for my super. I am hoping it will come through this month.
Anyway the situation I am in is that I am in Oldham and as far as I know the only provider close by is OLCI and I need to get quallified soon as. I just hope I am making the the right decision as $12000 is a lot of money.
 
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geeman

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Hi All

Mines probably a very familar story so I apologise if it's been asked 1000 times before.

I've been looking at re-training to a career in electrics, maybe as a Domestic Installer, wiring up houses etc. Ideally one day i'd like to be my own boss and have the freedom to move around the country (maybe even abroad who knows). I have no real experience in this type of work so I'll be starting from the first step on the ladder.

I was looking at the OLCI courses which lead me to this forum, however having read the feedback it's put me right off that company all together.

So, I wondered what advice you can give me and what types of courses I ounght to be looking at.

I'm currently working in IT (office job...) full time which I'll need to continue through the courses (mortgage to pay etc) and I live in the Manchester area.

As I said I've no real experience so I apologise for the total lack of knowledge in this area...

any advice you can offer would be great :)
 
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esgebe

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Hi, i'd stay in IT if i were you more money there i reckon, get into networking, that's what i intend to do eventually. As far as OLCI goes i could go on and on about those cowboys, i'm considering dragging them through the small claims court by the hair preferrably! I personally would have preferred the college route at the start, instead i have to try and finish my 2330 Level 3 by joining a localish college offering this course. I'm still waiting for information and feedback after several months of waiting so i can lodge an appeal from OLCI, nightmare! Good luck with locating an alternative course provider. Sorry i can't suggest anyone at present.
 
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esgebe

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Halo again. To answer your question, my son found a site a bit like watchdog where they investigate your problems with goods and services and someone had approached them about OCLI. he was training as a plumber and found that the course he was expecting to do was cancelled due to their being too few attendees. He pushed them for his money back and eventually, with help, he got a refund. So, it is not a huge criticism of them and I have seen mixed comments elsewhere although generally not bad. It is a lot of money though and I feel their approach is a little bit pushy and 'salesman' like which makes me nervous. Rather than a straight answer it tends to be a bit ' everything will be fine, dont worry about it'. I asked how often they run course at the nearest centre and was told they would send out a scheduel when I signed up - why not just tell me now so I know. I am in a hurry to get this training and do not want to find I cannot do the next step because there is no classroom time availble or whatever. Anyway I am going to do a bit more research this afternoon and will keep you informed. Cheers, Nig
Hi, judging by everyone being a bit hesitant here about going the OLCI route, I personally would advise not to give them the chance to squander any of your hard earned money. I have already posted originally on this forum regarding poor service from this shower, and that term is used more lightly than I would like! My original posting provoked a response from them, they obviously like watching the forums! If you enjoy waiting endlessly for buses you'll know what I mean. I agree with GED's comments entirely, keep well away. As for qualifications anyone wanting to be a full qualified sparky would need to do 2330 L2&3, 2356 L3 NVQ (which you need to be in a job or other environment to be assessed for, this is takes 2 years on average). Then you need to go through the AM2 procedure, which is similar equivilant to the old CORGI registration process (I belive approx £900, but you would be working by this time so no probs here). You can do the NVQ part seperate through a local tech college and get them to arrange assessment of your ongoing work. Then its to testing and regs that you need to get the 2382, 2391/92 Certs. Or You could go via the AEL route which is not a fully qualified electrician, but allows you to work in domestic situations doing basic electrical work, suits general builders and the likes, I think this covers Part P, but I might be wrong here, quote me if I am wrong on this, I'm going the NVQ route hopefully so not really genned up on the AEL route. Hope that throws a bit of light on the subject, must get on with my career plans If OLCI permits! esgebe
 
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govindk

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Hello Think carefully about joining olci . I am a current student with them and have had nothing but problems from the start. The level 2 and level 3 folders where littered with mistakes. Such as equations spelling mistakes and loads of other stuff. Teaching was good there i cant knock that but the admin side and the the teaching material was useless.

There are companys out there which offer electrical courses and guarantee job placement, so i urge you too look around because i came across one the other day.

OLCI guarenteed job placement, help starting a business, and lots of other stuff, but they let me down so i can only tell you off my experience. Its a lot of money to pay for a lot of hassle
 
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LarkySparky

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HI guys, i've recently completed my C&G 2330, part p, 17th at OLCI did the course with them from scratch - they offer a quick means of doing their modules if you have experience there is not much guidance in terms of the course material when you attend the college on your 'prac' days.
Its taken me 6 months to complete all the above, with just my NVQ3 left to complete, suppose it depends on how much work you willing to put in and whether you already are working in the industry, if not i wouldn't bother and rather enrol in a 'lecture' based course of which there are many on affer.
Good luck though guys, and i wish you all the best!!
 
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mccreath5

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DO NOT DO IT, I want down the olci way and trust me it's a total waste of money. they never return your calls and it can take 3 mouths to get a course at a center. there so-called support doesn't exist.
 
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robbo87

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Hi im a newbie on here, been checking some of the threads and saw this.

Im just coming to the end of L3 at the London centre. Ive been pretty happy with olci to be honest, few small hiccups along the way but nothing that couldnt be sorted out and admin were really helpful to me. I know a few guys who had to wait for practical dates but you can sign up for regular updates now so you know when you can book new dates, my advice is book them as soon as possible!

Now Im nearing the end Ive started talking to the job support service they’ve got, sent in my cv and got my fingers crossed for something to come up. They told me they couldn’t guarantee me a job but would help me as much as possible which is fair enough I guess, at the end of the day its up to me to make an impression and show employers ive got the right skills and experience for the job at hand.

It’s a shame not everyone has a good experience with these guys, Ive had a great time and now I just want to get out there and start using what Ive learnt.
 
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andy.smithy

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Hi all
I'm in the same place as robbo87 sort of - I've now finished my level 3 and just waiting for my certificates to come through. Did most of the practical sessions at the Mansfield centre which was brand new when I started so was really great and some of the workshops weren't filled up so it meant we could have more time with the trainer who really knew his stuff. Gave us a bit of offhand advice and tricks of the trade too which always helps!
Its taken me a fair while to get to this point but thats due to me not always putting the effort in which I only have myself to blame for. I never had problems with support myself. Haven't tried the job service but thinking about it, want to get certificates first then look for a job when I can prove I'm qualified.
Good luck to everyone!
 
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Marcs1

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Hi just new to the site. I was about to go into my 3rd year as an apprentice electrician, however since 2009 I have struggled to get an employer to take me on, the colleges, SECTT as well were doing nothing to help, I kept thinking at this rate I'll still be unqualified at 60. I started looking into private training and found OLCI, it is very expensive and I had a lot of doubts as to whether or not it was legit. Found out it was gonna cost me £6000!!! I had to make sure that it was gonna be worth my time and money. I contacted them again and asked them a lot of questions. The course sound very good as it is giving you the exact qualifications you need in-order to become a fully qualified electrician and the best bit is once you have finished you are eligible to apply to JIB for your electricians grade card. For everyone who is taking the ---- out of these kind of courses you need to stop and realise sometimes the only way to get something done is to do it yourself, right now nobody is taking on and nobody is bothered except yourself so you need to do something, even if it costs you otherwise you will be waiting forever.
 
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david.higgins

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Hi guys. I have just finished the 2330 level 2/3 course with Olci. Anyone thinking of joining them better not want any tuition with the theory side of things because I thought it was virtually none existent! When I first starting revising I soon found out that the people in the call centre in London are absolutely useless. The only way to get through it is by putting a lot of blood sweat and tears into it on your own. Forget most of the Ill written course material and buy the Trevor Lindsey books. on the other hand the practical sessions are quite good but you need to go through theory first as it is fast moving and you will get found out. As someone who has never worked in the electrical field before I thought that it progressed too quickly. Just stick with it and it will all fall into place eventually. I must stress that the exams are very hard and you will do well to pass all of them first time round. I'm now in the position that I can't find someone to take me on with out any on site experience even though I have more credentials than some 3/4 year apprentices! Joke. Hit the books and bite the bullet, I'm am testament to the fact it can be done. Another thing Olci are the best fast track training provider out there which is why they are accredited by barclays bank.
 
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fuzzydunlop

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Hi guys. I have just finished the 2330 level 2/3 course with Olci. Anyone thinking of joining them better not want any tuition with the theory side of things because I thought it was virtually none existent! When I first starting revising I soon found out that the people in the call centre in London are absolutely useless. The only way to get through it is by putting a lot of blood sweat and tears into it on your own. Forget most of the Ill written course material and buy the Trevor Lindsey books. on the other hand the practical sessions are quite good but you need to go through theory first as it is fast moving and you will get found out. As someone who has never worked in the electrical field before I thought that it progressed too quickly. Just stick with it and it will all fall into place eventually. I must stress that the exams are very hard and you will do well to pass all of them first time round. I'm now in the position that I can't find someone to take me on with out any on site experience even though I have more credentials than some 3/4 year apprentices! Joke. Hit the books and bite the bullet, I'm am testament to the fact it can be done. Another thing Olci are the best fast track training provider out there which is why they are accredited by barclays bank.
Got to agree with the above I'm halfway through lvl2 and have found it a mixed bag

The course materials are a joke, bin them and get the Linsley books far more detailed, also agree about the theory side i.e. it's non-existant.

The practical sessions are ok if you understand what's required/being asked of you but, as students can book up the whole course without passing any exams you get far too many people who haven't a clue what they're doing (which I understand happens) and seem intent on annoying everyone else

A couple of people who have been on the same sessions as me have got less than 20% in 201, 202 and 203 and are booked up to do the practical assessment next week when they have no chance of passing where as others who do, have to wait. I'm hoping by the time lvl 3 comes around all the wasters are filtered out

The tutors are hit and miss if you don't get it, you wont be told anything bar read your materials (which explain nothing theory side). If you do show competence the tutor will be willing to sit with you for a bit and talk about things outside the materials

In the London centre the tools are beyond bad, probably as they don't sign in/out tool boxes so you either have an incomplete toolbox or screwdrivers that have been battered (usually a combination of both) have also never seen a wire stripper (yes it's possible with cutters but hardly good practice).

As above you'll only get out of it what you're willing to put in

*edit* I should add that the "call centre" has been nothing but helpful - I'm guessing 2330 lvl 2 has a high intake and the churn will mean that lvl 3 should be a lot more accessible
 
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Ellie

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hello mate,

just paid a £500 quid to OLCI, thinking about cancelling my training course what a joke!!!!!!! i noticed you post saying the best why to get the certs is to do a 10 day training course, i trying to get offshore! would this 10 day course help me out? if so what's the best company to join with?

cheers
Ellie
 
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Alana Fox

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Hi david.higgins

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training. I can see that that you are looking for on site experience. You can contact our job placement advisor, who may be able to assist you. Although we cannot guarantee work, we will do all we reasonably can to help you. Please call us on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with a phone number and suitable time to call you back.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes, Alana Fox
 
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Alana Fox

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Hi fuzzydunlop

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training. I’d like to help you through your studies.

We can give you additional support, such as one-on-one tutor sessions, as we do with many other students.

Please call me on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with a phone number and suitable time to call you back.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes, Alana Fox
 
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Alana Fox

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Hi Ellie

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training. I’m happy to clarify the number of training days for our courses, which are all fully comprehensive.

Please call me on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with a phone number and suitable time to call you back.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes, Alana Fox
 
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jomcl67

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Hi all.
Just completed 2330 level 2&3 with OLCI and have now been told that the
'extra' qualifications eg 2391, 17th Edition,2377 are all over and above the £6500
already spent.
When I signed up for this course I was told that I would be fully qualified and be able
to sign off my and others work. Eh... without the 'extras' you cant even get
a job in this industry.
Not sure what I'm gonna do now, feel a bit stupid.
Anyway the moral of this story is steer clear from OLCI. Just expensive
broken promises with no backup.
 
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fuzzydunlop

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Hi all.
Just completed 2330 level 2&3 with OLCI and have now been told that the
'extra' qualifications eg 2391, 17th Edition,2377 are all over and above the £6500
already spent.
When I signed up for this course I was told that I would be fully qualified and be able
to sign off my and others work. Eh... without the 'extras' you cant even get
a job in this industry.
Not sure what I'm gonna do now, feel a bit stupid.
Anyway the moral of this story is steer clear from OLCI. Just expensive
broken promises with no backup.
What did you think you were signing up for (not a dig but what was you told? I've just dug out my enrolment stuff and the booklet makes no mention of anything bar 2330 lvl 2+3 as a course but says you may wish to achieve an NVQ (can mail it to you if you want)

From memory when I signed up the course itself was 2330 2+3 and 2356 NVQ3 then they threw in 17th and solar pv for free, also when I went to the college for the first time the interview was recorded and I was told would be placed with my file, also check your enrolment form
 
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jomcl67

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I signed up for the maintenance 2330 levels 2 & 3. Stated at the time that
given my background in mechanical engineering within a production environment
that 17th edition was a requirement that I needed. I was then told that and the
others mentioned was part of the complete course anyway and not to worry about it.
 
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fuzzydunlop

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What does it say on your enrolment form (the one you signed at the centre) that should have all the courses on it
 

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Do any of the tutors helping you guys with this actually 'help' you online?
It just seems a bit silly all these concerns about a company and no-one wants to come here to assist you with your theory concerns? Not building a very good rep for the company is it?
 
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jomcl67

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What does it say on your enrolment form (the one you signed at the centre) that should have all the courses on it
Didn't receive a copy of the enrolment form hence the reason I feel stupid. I just feel
that what I received wasn't worth the heavy price tag. What use is a course which is advertised
as 'qualified' and doesn't even include 17th Edition. Worthless waste of money.
 
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jomcl67

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Sorry about the rant. Its still a bit raw
 
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fuzzydunlop

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I don't understand how you never got one, everyone i've met had to go to the centre to sign one as its the contract between you and OLCI. Without that you're not even enrolled

How did you pay and what advisor did you see, as no one i've met has paid more than £5,880 for all the courses I listed earlier.

Somethings clearly not right here
 
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dean7828

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my only concern is that there is only enough practical to get you through the course, at the end you will be qualified but with no onsite experience, i know people who have done all the courses and never done a days work in there life, its hard to learn in a training center as on site when working on your own you will come across problems they cant teach you, i would suggest the course as a good idea and grounds to start off as an electricians mate to gain the on site experience also i was unaware that the nvq L3 could be done in a training center i was allays led to believe you had to be working to gain this qual!

good luck in the corse im sure you will benefit in the long run.
 
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Alana Fox

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Hi Jomcl67,

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training.

I would like to speak to you in more detail about your situation. Please could you call us on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with your number and a suitable time to call you back.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes, Alana Fox.
 
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fuzzydunlop

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i was unaware that the nvq L3 could be done in a training center i was allays led to believe you had to be working to gain this qual!

good luck in the corse im sure you will benefit in the long run.
It does have to be done on site, if you're referring to my post I had the NVQ3 added to my "bundle" of courses (OLCI pay the fee's for it), OLCI only give you the log book/visit site
 
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jomcl67

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Hi Jomcl67, Alana here from OLCI Construction Training. I would like to speak to you in more detail about your situation. Please could you call us on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with your number and a suitable time to call you back. I look forward to hearing from you. Best wishes, Alana Fox.
Well. 2 days after emailing details to Alana and still waiting for a response. Hmm.
 
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waynebaldwin

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Hi everyone,

I paid for the plumbing 6089 and 6129 city and guilds course 2 years ago when I was out of work within a month of paying for the course I got a job that requires at least 6 days work a week and because of this I can no longer commit to the course.I have tried to get a refund but olci will not pay me a penny back of the £5500 that I paid for the course, however they have told me i can sell it to anyone who is interested in doing the course at Bristol.So I am selling my course for £3750 which is £1750 less than you will have to pay usually for it. If you are interested you can contact me via email at [email protected].
 
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Alana Fox

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Well. 2 days after emailing details to Alana and still waiting for a response. Hmm.
Hi Jomcl67,

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training.

I don't seem to have received an email from you with your contact details on. Please could you call 0800 316 8100 or email me on [email protected] with your number and a suitable time to call you back. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes,

Alana Fox
 
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apollo1979

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I have emailed both Alana and the student layason officer about my course but have yet to have had a reply

Seems they are desputing what courses i have guess the sales guy was in such a fluster to get my money he didnt enter it all in the system properly, they just need to listen to the tapes and they will see what he told me i had.

lets hope it was just a slight error and it can be resolved will add the outcome on here to how fairly they treat me

After all i called them for advice aswell as to book the courses and i acted on the advice the guy gave me.

Rob
 
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Alana Fox

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Hi Apollo1979,

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training.

I'd like to help you, but we don't seem to have received your email. Please could you call me on 0800 316 8100 at your most convenient time and I will be happy to discuss the matter with you.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes,

Alana Fox
 

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