Opinions on Meritocracy?

[Mr Curnow]

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[trev]

Great idea. Everyone equal, now where have I heard that one before?
Oh yeah, Karl Marx.
I was serious when I said great idea. The only problem is that it's completely unworkable. How are you going to give a girl in provincial Afghanistan the same opportunities as the son of an Ivy League graduate lawyer in the US? The patriarchal society that exists in Afghanistan will deny her an education once the Taliban return to power and she will once again be condemned to a live of subservience and child bearing followed by a premature death.
What about the Orwellian thing from Animal Farm, "all animals are created equal" which had the eventual addition of "But some are more equal than others" which inevitably happens. Where is the incentive to educate yourself and to do better if the cardiac surgeon is earning no more than the person who sweeps the streets?

 

[Mr Curnow]

Great idea. Everyone equal, now where have I heard that one before?
Oh yeah, Karl Marx.
I was serious when I said great idea. The only problem is that it's completely unworkable. How are you going to give a girl in provincial Afghanistan the same opportunities as the son of an Ivy League graduate lawyer in the US? The patriarchal society that exists in Afghanistan will deny her an education once the Taliban return to power and she will once again be condemned to a live of subservience and child bearing followed by a premature death.
What about the Orwellian thing from Animal Farm, "all animals are created equal" which had the eventual addition of "But some are more equal than others" which inevitably happens. Where is the incentive to educate yourself and to do better if the cardiac surgeon is earning no more than the person who sweeps the streets?

They're not socialists and neither are they capitalists, they take a middle position, it's a mixture of capitalism and socialism. People start in equal positions in life and go as far as their talents take them, they won't be born into wealth and given positions from nepotism and cronyism, they will prove their worth. The current state of the world is that people are born into wealth and stay wealthy, they are given positions from who they know "It's not what you know, It's who you know.", take David Cameron for example, his father was a stockbroker, he went to eton college etc. The general public will never reach the position he did, yet he was served it on a plate, because he knew people.

Meritocracy doesn't allow anyone to be too rich or too poor, it's like capitalism but less harsh, you go as far your talents take you but you never go so far that you end up putting others on the streets (that's what our psychopathic leaders our doing right now with capitalism.). With a millionaire's 100% inheritance tax, the super rich can be stopped, the super rich rule over the poor and the middle class, their will be no oligarchy with a millionaire's 100% inheritance tax, I'm not saying take the money off the rich, I'm saying that nobody should ever be aloud to inherit millions and be in a better position than those who've inherited nothing despite how talented they are, the only thing that should determine how successful someone is how talented they are, the world isn't that, democracy is a false sense of freedom, it's a disguised oligarchy and a dictatorship.

Plus, technology will be so much better if 8 Billion people were given an equal opportunity, their are probably many geniuses the world has missed out on but capitalism and democracy have been the biggest obstacle for them, a starving women in africa has no chance, she can't get food let alone set up a business or become an inventor.

You seem to think Meritocracy is Socialism but it's not, there is inequality but no so much inequality, capitalism is very unequal, socialism is too equal regardless of talent, meritocracy is the sythesis, it's the solution, meritocracy allows for people to earn more than others hence encouraging people to better themselves unlike socialism, but then again, it doesn't put anyone out on the street from starting life in bad conditions, it doesn't allow people to rule over me and you, the monarchy, the super rich banksters, the corporate elite, the political elite etc. That would give people true "people power".

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about this, maybe capitalism is great...

 

[dingledong]

Unfortunately cronyism would stop this as its a me me me society every one is out for themselves good idea but unworkable bit like socialism

 

[Mr Curnow]

Unfortunately cronyism would stop this as its a me me me society every one is out for themselves good idea but unworkable bit like socialism

Socialism is unworkable but capitalism puts people out on the streets, it keeps a small select group of people rich and the rest of the public poor, it's a disguised oligarchy and tyranny, those who have the money rule.

"I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls britain's money supply controls the british empire, and I control the british money supply." - Nathan Rothschild.

As for cronyism, chances are their will still be cronyism in a meritocracy despite laws being put in place to prevent it, it's known at the moment that the super rich only allow their friends and families into the great positions like city bankers and lawyers, there was a BBC documentary on this about how they would employ each others children into their firms, 3/4 of the people that work in city banks in london are from private schools, they are born into privilege. A millionaire's 100% inheritance tax would end that, nobody would be privileged, everyone would start equal, there'd be equal education for example.

I don't think Meritocracy is perfect, nothing is, but it's the best thing that I've ever heard of. There will be probably be flaws still but compare that to capitalism and socialism, both are extremely flawed.