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I’m building a man cave/BBQ area. It has a substantial roof, a weather proof back wall, but open to the elements on the other three sides. It’s large enough so the back wall won’t be susceptible to rain etc. In the rest of the garden, I’ve used MK Masterseal sockets.

However, they are a bit of a faff plugging in stuff.

I was thinking of just installing a non IP rated socket, as it will only have to contend with dampness etc, and be easier plugging in my rotisserie or electric carving knife.

What your views, or should I just get my coat :)
 

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Personally I think it would look a bit 'DIY', but would probably be OK.
 

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Ah should be fine if it's well out of the elements, I have a mate with a large covered area in his garden that has normal sockets fitted and they must of been in for 10 years at least with no issues.
 
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I was thinking of just installing a non IP rated socket, as it will only have to contend with dampness etc,
Is it on it's own RCBO, or with other circuits on a split RCD board?
If the latter an N-E path could cause nuisance tripping of the corresponding RCD
 

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Is it on it's own RCBO, or with other circuits on a split RCD board?
If the latter an N-E path could cause nuisance tripping of the corresponding RCD
Nope, it’s just fed off an RFC, but I can negate that by turning off the FCU.

I could just put in another Masterseal, but those lids do my head in, especially when I’m chefing.
 

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The new outdoor range from hamilton is good. So easy to use and install. Cheaper than mk, bg etc too
 
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How about an IP44/IP67 rated 16A IEC60309 (ceeform) socket, used with a short 16A to twin 13A jumper?
 

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How about an IP44/IP67 rated 16A IEC60309 (ceeform) socket, used with a short 16A to twin 13A jumper?
I’ve just spent the last two weekends cladding the back wall. Not putting anything blue on it. :)
 

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Here’s the situation;

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and another one developing;

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PS, whats happening with this forum, on the quiet as it were?
 

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It’s ok with the last one; her indoors has come to the rescue with replenishment. Thew
 

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Looks well does that.
 
Looking low get that topped up!

Tbh I would be happy putting a non ip rated unit there but keeping a close eye on it during the winter months.
 
No offence to Middy although he probably will be offended but I find people who cook outside, particularly with barbeques mildly irritating. It is on a par with hot tubs.
 

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No offence to Middy although he probably will be offended but I find people who cook outside, particularly with barbeques mildly irritating. It is on a par with hot tubs.
How else do you encourage it to rain in the middle of summer than light a barbeque?
 

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No offence to Middy although he probably will be offended but I find people who cook outside, particularly with barbeques mildly irritating. It is on a par with hot tubs.
No offence taken. Couldn't be more irritating, than our local farmer deciding to spray his fields with cow ----, on a hot August Bank Holiday weekend.:weary:
 
If they can't get wet then normal sockets would be fine, you live there so who cares what it might look like.
 

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It’s only used for ceremonial purposes; got it for a wedding present, so it’s only used on special occasions :)
 

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It’s only used for ceremonial purposes; got it for a wedding present, so it’s only used on special occasions :)
Mrs. T. has a Moulinex electric knife, was bought in 1980. still in use every week. it's even got non-shrouded pins on the plug.
 

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We got a complete Wedgwood crockery and tea set as one of wedding gifts.

Only got one cup left; she daren’t throw that at me :)
 

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We got a complete Wedgwood crockery and tea set as one of wedding gifts.

Only got one cup left; she daren’t throw that at me :)
i have a contact close to Wedgwood. their security is poor after 5.00pm. even worse when it's dark. in and out in 10 minutes with a full dinner set. £500 to you, delivered.
 

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No thanks, had enough dodging the last lot.
 
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