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johnduffell

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‘Nothing’ before the Big Bang.
No such thing as nothing, if you get a box and suck everything out of it then what’s left inside it?
cardboard box or cricketer's box?
I can't really remember was around before the big bang, but were there any subatomic particles flying around? Or magnetic fields?
 

Richard Burns

Respected Member
The question of what was there before the big bang is not relevant as space did not exist for there to be anything in it, our methods of observation do not apply.
The standard "explanation" is "before the big bang there was nothing, which exploded to create the universe"!
 

johnduffell

Regular EF Member
interesting thanks, and on a more flippant but bizarrely true note, we have established that the big bang is an over unity machine, due to the fact that it defined the concept of energy/mass, let alone produced more of it than it had to start with ! pretty neat.
 

telectrix

Scouser and Proud of It
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what's a quantum? is it more than a magnum, but less than a jeroboam?
 

telectrix

Scouser and Proud of It
Respected Member
The question of what was there before the big bang is not relevant as space did not exist for there to be anything in it, our methods of observation do not apply.
The standard "explanation" is "before the big bang there was nothing, which exploded to create the universe"!
but how can "nothing" explode? the big bang was so long ago, we need to ask pete999. he was there! :mask: :mask: :mask:
 

marconi

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'but how can "nothing" explode?

There would be no fun for you nor challenge if I attempted to explain the big bang theory as I comprehend it. Let me put six thoughts in your mind to help you on your way:

1. Einstein said 'Space and time are modes by which we think, not conditions under which we live' We live in spacetime something 4 dimensional with time inextricably linked with 3D space.

2. The big bang was an explosion of spacetime itself not an explosion of something in space unfolding over time.

3. When things approach the speed of light time slows and distances lengthen.

4. Mass warps spacetime.

5. Even during the big bang, the Universe was infinite - so it did not expand into something that was not the Universe. One might say that at the beginning the Universe was both incredibly dense(mass) and hot(energy), everywhere in spacetime.

6. Mass is condensed energy thus E=m x csquared.

This little book is a great primer:


:)
 
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telectrix

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pirate could not accept that the world was round, so he set out to prove it was flat. unfortunately, he made it back having discovered that the Carribean was the end of the world, fenced off by Texas and Mexico.
 

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