PIR advice

[pushrod]

Hi, when doing a pir on a house what do you do when coming across these situations preventing you getting an R1+R2 or Zs?

1) you can't access 5 or so ceiling spots because they have been helpfully siliconed in place and taking out will cause damage.

and

2) You come across mains spots that have neatly had the cpc snipped right back. There are other spots that are in parallel, so even the cable in those has no effective cpc (they have just been paralleled up with line and neutral) Installation looks 25years plus old. The spots are pretty ancient and don't have a class 2 mark visible and there is no termination for a cpc so assume non needed?

Was thinking for 1) put it in the limitations, although this is after the event a bit as i did not notice this when initially walking round or putting a code 3??? or putting something in the remarks section on the schedule of test results

for 2) a code 2, 3 or 4? I can think of arguments for all 3 lol!
There is a decent length of cable so was thinking of stripping it back a bit further and just linking up the CPCs.

cheers for any thoughts/comments

 

[telectrix]

can't argue with above. exactly what i would do, bit of extra cash for the cpc's. LOL.

 

[malcolmsanford]

For 2 it would definitely be a code 4 as to reg 412.2.3.2 and a cpc at each point of an installation. Not sure if you could code it a 2 unless you definitely thought they were metal type class I fittings. so that's down to you Phil lol. You could though check with other earthed accessories in the room ie socket outlet screws to see if the fittings were earthy.

 

[truckster]

For 2) I'd put it down as a 2 improvement required as there is no cpc at each point and especially if they have terminated the pvc into the fitting without a hr flex.

 

[pushrod]

cheers guys - Hey Tel, see you are the top poster and they've made a new category for you - are you on a commision now

Hi Malc I was leaning towards a 4 myself and agree Truckster if it was showing signs of over heating but tbh these old things have so much bakelite between the terminations and the lamp that they appear ok even though probs not seen the light of day for 20+ years