problem in the pub

[colshaws]

Hi all
The manager of my local has been begging the owners to do something about the state of the wiring in the pub, I am, as some would say a Electrical Trainee DI so know nothing on the regs regarding pubs. I have seen an open ceiling rose with a cable extended to the light over the pool table, this ceiling rose is in easy reach of an extended arm and therfore totally dangerouse ie. exposed conductive parts, this is one of a number of many problems. The manager is at the point where he is ready to get the pub closed until the place is made safe and wants to know who he can report this to (annonamously) who will have the power to force the owners to make the place safe.

 

[trev]

He could report to the licensing authority, the fire service or environmental health all of whom have an interest in safety in public buildings. Whether the brewery would take any notice of him shutting the pub till they do something about the state of the place is open for discussion because they will still want their rent from him on a weekly/monthly basis.

 

[topquark]

He could report to the licensing authority, the fire service or environmental health all of whom have an interest in safety in public buildings. Whether the brewery would take any notice of him shutting the pub till they do something about the state of the place is open for discussion because they will still want their rent from him on a weekly/monthly basis.

Was gonna say similar Trev. But it may just force the brewery into selling it up for redevelopment if there's no chance of a license being granted for it.

 

[Hiddo]

There are lots o people he could report it to:

HSE might be a good place to start (safety of employees etc)

Licensing Dept at the local council (safety of punters)

He should really think about this though, he could well be out of a job and if he lives in the pub homeless if they shut it down.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

An EICR needs to be carried out.....this needs to be ordered by the owner.....an owner usually only orders an EICR when their insurance company insist.
Surely sorting the ceiling rose is a 5 minute job even for a Electrical Trainee.......cant you do it for a pint?

 

[Guest55]

So whats so serious that the place should be closed ? dodgy pool table light ?
Report it to
a. liscensing dept at local council
b. brewery
c. insurance company.

 

[colshaws]

Thanks Trev
He has told the brewery but they seem to be dragging their feet, ie the message has been passed to the area mager to themaintenance to the blah blah blaht etc. I will suggest Enviromental health .

 

[trev]

Pubs are notorious for having bad electrical installations, I've worked in lots and found things that are truly appalling

 

[ruston]

There are lots o people he could report it to:

HSE might be a good place to start (safety of employees etc)

Licensing Dept at the local council (safety of punters)

He should really think about this though, he could well be out of a job and if he lives in the pub homeless if they shut it down.

Yes if he is making a good living he could maybe have the more urgent problems addressed himself. Pubs are usually a nightmare of mis mash of wiring additions and defective fittings and the like. Once closed it may never re-open.

 

[Dave 85]

Pubs are notorious for having bad electrical installations, I've worked in lots and found things that are truly appalling

I was about to say...
Has anyone ever seen a pub that didn't have a total mess of a wiring system, cos I havn't. Its all part of the fun of going out on the lash.

 

[colshaws]

Wirepuller
I could do it for a pint but the ceiling rose is only the start and I dont want to be "associated" with the place as the owners would probably hold me liable.

 

[trev]

Even the modern town centre bars where the young uns go are a nightmare

 

[Guest55]

I was about to say...
Has anyone ever seen a pub that didn't have a total mess of a wiring system, cos I havn't.

I have , the ones i've rewired.
;-)

 

[topquark]

Thanks Trev
He has told the brewery but they seem to be dragging their feet, ie the message has been passed to the area mager to themaintenance to the blah blah blaht etc. I will suggest Enviromental health .

The brewery would normally give him a budget for such work. Giving him an idea of costs to rectify it would be a good start (at least he'll have something to approach the brewery with then).

 

[1shortcircuit]

HSE, Simple. If they're concerned at what they find they'll issue a rectification doo dah with a time period to get things resolved. If they don't then fines or even closure could be imposed.

The beauty with the HSE is ANYONE can report it anonymously knowing that it will get acted upon.

 

[Farmelectrics]

What's the ale like

 

[colshaws]

What's the ale like

Ale is good, locals are great, decor is s**t and electrics are:hanged:

 

[ruston]

Ale is good, locals are great, decor is s**t and electrics are:hanged:

Proper pub then lol.

 

[Des 56]

What's the ale like

The forum is going downhill fast.It took 16 posts before we got to the most important question

 

[sparks1973]

Hi all
The manager of my local has been begging the owners to do something about the state of the wiring in the pub, I am, as some would say a Electrical Trainee DI so know nothing on the regs regarding pubs. I have seen an open ceiling rose with a cable extended to the light over the pool table, this ceiling rose is in easy reach of an extended arm and therfore totally dangerouse ie. exposed conductive parts, this is one of a number of many problems. The manager is at the point where he is ready to get the pub closed until the place is made safe and wants to know who he can report this to (annonamously) who will have the power to force the owners to make the place safe.

well for a start wether or not it can be reached is neither here nor there....its a (1) for a start as placing out of reach would not apply to an area occupied by unskilled/uninstructed person/s not under supervision.....