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Adam W

A loss to the world but time moves on, he will remain a key figure in history.
Yes. 82 is a good innings, and he will be remembered for years to come. No other human can die knowing they were the first to step on the moon. RIP Neil Armstrong.
 
"One small step for man, a giant leap for mankind." Those words and his name will be taught in schools for the rest of time. Legend.
 
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MarkieSparkie

A man of few words, but what he did say will resonate round the world long after his death.
 
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The conspiricy theory bods will be out soon, renewing their claims that the Apollo 11 landing on the moon was a fake!
 

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well of course it was fake. proven by the claim that they brought back moon rock samples. everybody knows that the moon is made of cheese.
 
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I wonder if he'll get to see Mr Gorsky again and ask if he got his wish.

It's a long story..........
 

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LiveLeak.com - chew on this for the denials out there..... as take using hubble....unless that too is a fake and is made by using a kitchen role holder and cling film as seen on bluepeter ;)
 
Yes I remember as a youngster watching it on television ( black and white kiddies ) our neighbour worked up the post office tower and was something to do with the early downlinks and got to meet them all afterwards
wow
a few years ago two graduates did an assesment of the likely costs of the moon landings against faking it
it worked out cheaper to go to the moon due to the catering costs !!
it must have been quite something to do that mission dont forget technology was in its infancy
as for the imbeciles going on about a faked landing america seems full fo fruit and nuts like that
Buzz Aldrin was harrased by one his prompt curt and businesslike reply was a firm solid punch worth of Cassius Clay ( just giving my age away kids)
Buzz Aldrin Punch - YouTube
dont forget these astronauts had a level of phyisacall fitness on par with a top athlete and they kept that way
RIP Neil
 

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LiveLeak.com - chew on this for the denials out there..... as take using hubble....unless that too is a fake and is made by using a kitchen role holder and cling film as seen on bluepeter ;)
all bound up with hubble bubble wrap. anyway id the moon was 248,000 miles away, how the hell did the cow jump over it. it's all fake. the moon is only 2" diameter, filled with helium and held up with some 1.0mm single tied down in next door's garden.
 

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course there is. he lives in the chimney. that's why we're not allowed coal fires. nothing to do with pollution.
 
OK then I'm going to join the nut brigade .........................

Ok accept all the conspiracies theories were de-bunked about the shadows, the flag waving in the "wind" and this and that about pictures, (Tony could explain better)......................................

but ...............................I'm still skeptical about the techno side of things. With the computing power of a casio calculator they managed to get all these missions up and back again and apart from Apollo 13 ................with no hassles

We have all seen the Youtube footage of them trying to fly the landing craft and what a mess they made of it ...........and again without any computer guidance every landing was near perfect ................

The biggy for me is the radiation .........................in a suit basically made out of tin foil they sent these guys into an environment that had full solar radiation burning down on it and no atmosphere to protect them except for a kebab wrapper ..........ahem

Saying all this the biggest for them doing it, rather than in a film lot somewhere in Burbank is that not one person, be it astronaut technician cameraman or tea lady as come forward to tell all ..............

So I guess I sort of have to believe it ...but find it hard
 
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OK then I'm going to join the nut brigade .........................

Ok accept all the conspiracies theories were de-bunked about the shadows, the flag waving in the "wind" and this and that about pictures, (Tony could explain better)......................................

but ...............................I'm still skeptical about the techno side of things. With the computing power of a casio calculator they managed to get all these missions up and back again and apart from Apollo 13 ................with no hassles

We have all seen the Youtube footage of them trying to fly the landing craft and what a mess they made of it ...........and again without any computer guidance every landing was near perfect ................

The biggy for me is the radiation .........................in a suit basically made out of tin foil they sent these guys into an environment that had full solar radiation burning down on it and no atmosphere to protect them except for a kebab wrapper ..........ahem

Saying all this the biggest for them doing it, rather than in a film lot somewhere in Burbank is that not one person, be it astronaut technician cameraman or tea lady as come forward to tell all ..............

So I guess I sort of have to believe it ...but find it hard
im not convinced either,all these moon landings were in about 3 years of each other 60/70's when technology was basic to these days.then nowt,if it was easy then should be a peice of p now,but no ones been back up since as far as i know,they should be doing day trips
 
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I've always wondered how the chaps on the moons surface dealt with getting out of the lunar module in their suits.

The craft was small and didn't have an "air lock" so ok they put their suits on, then what?? And when they got back in how did they seal the craft, refill it with air and then take their suits off. Also, given the mook dust was claimed to be smelly and get everywhere, why didn't it foul up their switchgear and seals??
 
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alarm man

bit like area 51,home to all these alien beings thats been caught,the only ones ive seen are on the tv,or screwfix..:moon:
 

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The craft was small and didn't have an "air lock" so ok they put their suits on, then what?? And when they got back in how did they seal the craft, refill it with air and then take their suits off.
I'm guessing they used the same technique that women use to remove their bras without first removing their outer garments.
 
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Whatever Neil Armstrong gave us adventure when i was young anyway. He will go down in history as a great .....Great at what ? not sure if that would be landing the lunar module or lying for the good old USA about landing the lunar module.
 
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Anyway you look at it, you've got to have some balls to sit on 280 tonnes of slapped together metal and rocket fuel and fly it into the vast nothingness of space just to win a dick waving contest against the Russians

Utmost respect
 
I dont think the russkies would have let them get away with porkies !!
even in those days we had sceptics
trouble is the USof A does have more than its fair share of nutcases
I was once giving a talk about wartime missions to a group of schooldchildren ( i used to give talks on Britain at war) I spoke aboit Otto Skorzeny the germany commando who widely copied david stirling and they copied him
an American teaching visitor told me that her aunt was married to him ?
I asked was she german no American well Otto died in Spain many years ago but according to our visitor he was alive and well
she sent me some picture of him in America oh yes it was the dead man what a likeness 12 inches shorter missing a duelling scar and 20 years younger !!!!!
I know that soem of you younger people cannot beleive that we got to the moon with such low tech equipment but hey ho America already had auto pilots that would land aircraft in fog by remote control from the ground back in the 40s
they had already developed the Klystron before us and of course nicked all the german rocket scientists at the end of the war and all the research
its surprising how much we as human beings managed before technology why myself I managed without a mobile phone or radio pager or sat nav but was always in touch with my office
the met police could also locate locate any policeman within a few minutes back in the 30s ?
and my dad found my mum in the blackout or I would not be here !!!
 
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I wonder if he'll get to see Mr Gorsky again and ask if he got his wish.

It's a long story..........
Here's the story:

On July 20,1969, as commander of the Apollo 11 lunar module, Neil Armstrong was the first person to set foot on the moon. His first words after stepping on the moon, "that's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind," were televised to earth and heard by millions, but just before he re-entered the lander, he made the enigmatic remark "good luck, Mr. Gorsky." Many people at NASA thought it was a casual remark concerning some rival Soviet Cosmonaut. However, upon checking, there was no Gorsky in either the Russian or American space programs.

Over the years many people questioned Armstrong as to what the "good luck, Mr. Gorsky" statement meant, but Armstrong always just smiled.

On July 5, 1995, in Tampa bay, Florida, while answering questions following a speech, a reporter brought up the 26-year-old question to Armstrong. This time he finally responded. Mr. Gorsky had died, so Neil Armstrong felt he could answer the question.

In 1938 when he was a kid in a small Midwest town, he was playing baseball with a friend in the backyard. His friend hit the ball, which landed in his neighbour's yard by the bedroom windows. His neighbours were Mr. and Mrs. Gorsky. as he leaned down to pick up the ball, young Armstrong heard Mrs. Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky.

"Oral sex! You want oral sex?! ? You’ll get oral sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!"
 
Oh and Neil Armstrong a true hero as were all apollo astronauts , I remember watching black and white tv everyday to see what had happened to Apollo 13 , it still amazes and astounds me they got them home.
 
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drew35

I just think about cars from the sixties and how rubbish they were compared to now. With the advance in technology by now going to the moon should be as easy as flying to America. I'm 38 and there hasn't been a moon landing in my life time! I think they faked it to beat the Russians, I'll believe it when I see it for myself!!!
 
well I own a car from the sixties in fact I have owned it for 22 years
its never once let me down taken me all over europe on just regular servicing
plus if it does go wrong you can fix it
what you dont fit cant break
modern cars are an improvement and run for terrific mileages without much care and attention wheareas a classic car needs regular servicing however when the car was first designed they drove one for 30 thousand miles through europe without problem
good quality materials and basic construction are a bonus
 

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so it's obviously not a metro, marina, escort, avenger, alpine, cortina, imp, french, or italian or it would be :001_9898: pile of rust in your garage.
 

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i had the model before that. the old 1200 sunny. never let me down and it didn't rot
 

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I watched it as a kid on a BW telly I will always remember it..Only now do i realise it's fake..if it was real I would have seen Engineer54 banging an earth rod in to the Moon rock getting his Ra down to the minimum...with a huge gazillion CSA Green / yellow E bond of 250,000 miles tapped to earth...

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nope its a Morris Oxford series 5 just clicked up to 86K from new I am only the second owner
always been serviced its a long stroke engine so dates back to WW2 speed is not an option
but it happily cruises on the Strada at 55MPH
it diod have a little corrosion but then its Italian designed so what do you expect but I paid to have it properly repaired by a skilled craftsman and it continues to give good service
it does not have power steering but a big steering wheel instead
it has drum brakes that seems to work ok but no ABS you need intelligence and to consider the road surface and conditions
been over the alps to Italy no worries although it gets a bit hot
and no one under 45 could steal it cos they would not have a clue how to drive it
free road tax
goes up in value every year now worth at least ten quid with a tank of petrol
the radio has valves so I cant get Chris Evans so thats a bonus
and insurance aint alot plus I can find the thing in the huge car park in rome
you children of the digital age do not realise that things used ot work before digital systems but they were usually slower and needed human input
after all modern cars have ABS ( mine does) Traction control fantastic tyres adn brakes and heaters but you still manage to have accidents !!!
its just that in a car like mine you would most likely die if you drove like a wazzock round the one way system whereas a modern car will just protect you
I am not a luddite though I have a modern motorcycle fully EFi with 3 way cat etc and it does 70mpg touring europe
my bantam would probably not have got that far
as a young man ie bloody ages ago I travelled the Eastern bloc countries
seeing the cars in use they seemed crude almost the same as pre war cars here
I spoke to our host and said why are they so out of date lacking in modern things and style almost like trucks to drive
then he pointed out something the roads he said are often 500 miles between villages technical know how is on par with the horse
you need something a peasant can understand and repair in a blacksmiths workshop
I learnt a lot on those journeys
ps a friend of mine flies his own plane ( rich git)
its russiam with a radial engine a YAK i think
it was the standard russian trainign aircraft and has cable operated control systems but pneumatic braking
he opened the side panel to show me the radio set this thing was built in the 80s it has a huge valve radio with short wave bands and crystals
why I asked ??
if you are lost you can use oen fo the main short wave radio stations to get a direction finding point
also Valve receivers will continue to operate after a Nuclear war when static would shut down transistor systems
coem on you chaps Bleriot flew the channel in a home made plane using a 3 cylinder Italian motorcycle engine
what chance did he have !!
 
they were excellent cars my old firm had a fleer of the estates they ran for years and when the firm sold them off other staf members bought them to use as works vans
aha the good old days
I recall driving an A35 van
no heater
no interior light
it had a cycle headlight on the front seat
and it would never get you nicked for speeding
all that and cross ply tyres
it did over 70 thousand miles with idiots like me driving it
mind it never went above 50 mph
 

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