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Hi all,

I'm thinking of retraining as an electrician, but I'm weighing up my options and need decent advice from experienced electricians.


Bit of background:

1 - Just turned 27

2 - Currently working as a chemical engineer - Only way to progress my career is to move country to country now.

3 - Moving is not an option for me anymore - I have a family + a business that is established in my local area (Not something I can just up sticks and take).

4 - Business is running fine without me, so I have way more time now - I wanted to try this before I pick up even more commitments.

5 - Ultimately my aim is to open a second business, but I need the correct experience.


My plans:

Knowing something in theory is totally different to knowing it practically, so I would never 'just' do a course.

1 - Study my Level 2 and 3, along the way volunteering and scraping together as much work as I possibly can in order to complete the NVQ and AM2.

2 - Study my level 2, find work as an electricians mate (Or related) and then continue with the rest of my course before hitting the NVQ & AM2.


I'm weighing up courses with the following:

1 - C&G

2 - EAL

I'm probably too old for an apprenticeship, even if I do feel its the better route. Since my options are already limited, I need to be more picky.


Questions: Course trained electricians seem to get a bit of stick from people who favour an apprenticeship. Opinions shouldn't matter, but that's stupid thinking as opinions always matter so I need to ask this anyway:

1 - Of EAL and C&G, which one do you feel is superior content provider/held in higher esteem with employers?

2 - If you were a prospective employer and your only option was to hire a course trained electrician, would you lean towards an EAL or C&G trained electrician (Providing that they had achieved work experience sufficient to pass their NVQ etc)?

In total, I'm looking at 2/3 years of course directed learning, but I'll be conservative and say I probably wouldn't be qualified for NVQ & AM2 until I'm in my early 30s say. With that in mind, any direction and help would be really appreciated.

Cheers,

Josh
 

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both qualifications are recognised, bit c&G is the more sought after by employers. either way, level 2 and level 3 to get you ready for NVQ and AM2. it's the practical experience that's important.
 
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both qualifications are recognised, bit c&G is the more sought after by employers. either way, level 2 and level 3 to get you ready for NVQ and AM2. it's the practical experience that's important.
Thanks for taking the time telectrix - I'm hearing similar things about c&g, it was as I'd suspected anyway but thank you for confirming. There is only one provider of the C&G near me (tradeskills4U), all others are EAL so I needed some confirmation prior to making a decision
 

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Thanks for taking the time telectrix - I'm hearing similar things about c&g, it was as I'd suspected anyway but thank you for confirming. There is only one provider of the C&G near me (tradeskills4U), all others are EAL so I needed some confirmation prior to making a decision
just don't be tempted to take a short course (5 weeks?) for domestic installer. that would just give you a start into the nightmare world of house bashing. proper electrician's qual.is at least 1 year for level 2, another year for level 3. either day release or 2 evenings a week. try your local college/s for courses.
 
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just don't be tempted to take a short course (5 weeks?) for domestic installer. that would just give you a start into the nightmare world of house bashing. proper electrician's qual.is at least 1 year for level 2, another year for level 3. either day release or 2 evenings a week. try your local college/s for courses.
Oh don't worry, I don't see how you could be qualified after 5 weeks - I've met the equivalent in engineering, it doesn't work. Regs have changed anyway (technically) - seems to be a 2 year minimum level of experience to be registered as competent now so I've no interest in short course.

Tradeskills is 2-3 years, it's the only one that is c&g - all of the colleges near me have ceased their adult electrician courses now or only go to lvl 2, so my options are a little limited. I can volunteer my work for free or try for low level work after my level 2 - the work ex is more important. I did the same for my engineering degree so I've no opposition to the hard graft

Thanks for the guidance on it - I'll try some colleges farther afield and see
 

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45 and recently started a full apprenticeship, so it's possible to do this.

For me it's EAL, for no reason other than the fact that EAL is what's offered at the only local college who consider mature apprentices. C&G is definitely a more widely recognised name, but it shouldn't make any difference once NVQ is attained and AM2-S passed.

It's a big commitment to fully re-train in this way, but if it's something you really want (as opposed to a vague notion) I'd tell you to go for it and take whichever available route is likely to give you the best, and most rounded, training.

Edit: While an apprenticeship isn't the quickest route, it will certainly let you gain experience and your background suggests sufficient qualifications to start at lvl 3. Having looked at other options, it seems as though many insist upon completion of lvl 2 as a prerequisite to starting lvl 3.
 
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45 and recently started a full apprenticeship, so it's possible to do this.

For me it's EAL, for no reason other than the fact that EAL is what's offered at the only local college who consider mature apprentices. C&G is definitely a more widely recognised name, but it shouldn't make any difference once NVQ is attained and AM2-S passed.

It's a big commitment to fully re-train in this way, but if it's something you really want (as opposed to a vague notion) I'd tell you to go for it and take whichever available route is likely to give you the best, and most rounded, training.

Edit: While an apprenticeship isn't the quickest route, it will certainly let you gain experience and your background suggests sufficient qualifications to start at lvl 3. Having looked at other options, it seems as though many insist upon completion of lvl 2 as a prerequisite to starting lvl 3.
Hi Mate

Could I please ask where you applied for your EAL level 2 and 3 ? My local college offer the training but it's full time attendance only, however I need something part time / online as still need to work full time to get the money in to pay the ever increasing bills :(

Thanks
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Hi Mate

Could I please ask where you applied for your EAL level 2 and 3 ? My local college offer the training but it's full time attendance only, however I need something part time / online as still need to work full time to get the money in to pay the ever increasing bills :(

Thanks
Daz

I hassled colleges for three years. Only one local college (in NI) takes adult apprentices and limited places due to covid added an extra year to the wait.
 

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