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Hello guys!

I've got a visit from a SSE engineer today to install a smart meter.

Long story short he left because he did not have access to the external switch room (I live in a council block) and therefore could not complete the installation.

He also said that he would have to remove the isolator attached to my actual meter. Do you think this is normal? I'm not an expert but there must be a valid reason if the isolator is there.

Hope someone can help me with this.

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The isolator, providing it's not in the way, is handy because it allows you (or an electrician) to isolate your supply allowing major works such as consumer unit upgrades to be carried out with requiring access to the switch room to isolate your supply.
 
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The isolator, providing it's not in the way, is handy because it allows you (or an electrician) to isolate your supply allowing major works such as consumer unit upgrades to be carried out with requiring access to the switch room to isolate your supply.
So, if the isolator was not on the way, could he have installed the new meter without accessing the switch room?

I'll post a picture as soon as I get home. I'd love to know if you think it was actually on the way.

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Usually isolators like that are installed after the meter. To put them before allows people to shutdown and potentially reconnect bypassing the meter. But in this case, I'm guessing it's been done like that to allow works without requiring access to the switch room.
 
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Usually isolators like that are installed after the meter. To put them before allows people to shutdown and potentially reconnect bypassing the meter. But in this case, I'm guessing it's been done like that to allow works without requiring access to the switch room.
So why do you think the engineer just left cause he didn't have access to the switch room?

He said per company policy they are not allowed to work with isolators. It seems the only chance I get is let them access the switch room and remove the isolator?

Does this even make sense ?
 

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I think the consensus on here will be that smart meter installers have a fairly closed set of rules regarding what installations they are feel they can work on. Anything beyond those boundaries and it's not their problem.

I suspect the isolator is the property of the BNO (that's Building Network Operator I believe - or the people who provide the electricity supply in the building). If that's the case, he can't remove it because it is not the suppliers property (he works for or on behalf of a supplier).
 

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The isolator needs to be after the meter not before as it is now.
The meter operative would need to isolate the supply as they need to go into the smart meter in terminals.
 
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I think the consensus on here will be that smart meter installers have a fairly closed set of rules regarding what installations they are feel they can work on. Anything beyond those boundaries and it's not their problem.

I suspect the isolator is the property of the BNO (that's Building Network Operator I believe - or the people who provide the electricity supply in the building). If that's the case, he can't remove it because it is not the suppliers property (he works for or on behalf of a supplier).
What if I ask them to install the new meter and place the isolator after the meter?
This way they are no removing anything right?

Hope they can agree to that.
 

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They generally do not want anyone to have the facility to turn off their data transmitting device.
Please tell tell me why on earth you would want a smart meter,and i will tell you how to achieve the same,without one.

As for meter fitters fitting isolators....
The nice lad,who turned up without notice or permission,to attempt to fit one at my aged parents property,got in a right tizzy,when i asked how he would allow a single point of isolation,in their dual-tariff installation...

He finally accepted defeat,and asked me to explain and do a drawing,to show a suitable method,which i did,in red felt-tip pen,on the lid of a cardboard box....which he ripped off,and took with him;)
 
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They generally do not want anyone to have the facility to turn off their data transmitting device.
Please tell tell me why on earth you would want a smart meter,and i will tell you how to achieve the same,without one.

As for meter fitters fitting isolators....
The nice lad,who turned up without notice or permission,to attempt to fit one at my aged parents property,got in a right tizzy,when i asked how he would allow a single point of isolation,in their dual-tariff installation...

He finally accepted defeat,and asked me to explain and do a drawing,to show a suitable method,which i did,in red felt-tip pen,on the lid of a cardboard box....which he ripped off,and took with him;)
Main reason for me is that my tariff includes the installation of a smart meter. Therefore to save money I need a smart meter installed.

On a geek side I think it's handy to have control of what you are spending in gas and electricity without sending readings and waiting for estimations.
 
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Main reason for me is that my tariff includes the installation of a smart meter. Therefore to save money I need a smart meter installed.

On a geek side I think it's handy to have control of what you are spending in gas and electricity without sending readings and waiting for estimations.
With respect - no you don't.

To save money,you need to use less electricity,or use it more wisely,for this,you do not need an addition,which may limit your choice of changing providers,which may hobble future chances of savings.

There are many devices available,which can give you the information required,live or stored.

Nobody has accused the government of being evil....foolhardy,maybe....it is the unrealistic,pressured nature of this failed (government's own adviser's words:)) roll-out,which irks me.

It is your own personal choice,which most should respect,but i called it right,with the PV and the cavity wall job....i will wager, i may be right again:rolleyes:
 

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