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tony.towa

I know this may sound a bit strange, but after hours of googling I am hoping someone can point me in the direction of where I can get a copy of Spanish wiring regulations (if there are such things) in English. Cheers:confused:
 
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PAUL M

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i dont think they bother with regs do they judging by the standard you see on your hols.lol
 
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Bane

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National and international wiring regulations - Building Services Journal

I know it doesn't answer your question directly but I think you'll find it points you into a more definate direction.

Keep us updated on progress please.

ePanorama.net - Links

Alternatively. Try that one :)

Cenelec - CENELEC

Or even that one. :)
 
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tony.towa

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Cheers Bane. Have bounced around the links you suggested and following some of the threads has resulted in me finding out some of the basics and also sent me to a site where I might get some joy with the full regs. Will keep you informed on

"The Quest For The Spanish Regs". :D
 
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tony.towa

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The story so far:-
Have found out a lot of general information about wiring power and lights on the same 16amp radial, as long as its the same room, ten amp radial for lighting, some places connect the neutral to the earth of the socket to create an earth path:eek:. earth can be in red cable, neutral blue and live black. If the property has 115volt supply a local authority electrician has to be contacted to change the supply to 220 and the local authority notified of the change.
Contacted the EIT site and they have given me the details of a spanish site to contact, so will now have brush up on my spanish.

How do i shout loudly and wave my hands in an email?

As I find out more will keep you informed.
 
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sparkyork

intersting reading this, amongst other dubios things: earth=red and black=live!! wowzers!! i thought when we went from black n red to brown n blue it was to make us similar to europe!. i wouldnt last 5 mins out there before been brown bread!!
 
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tony.towa

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It's getting better. Have ben in touch with a British sparks working in Spain. He told me the Spanish will accept the UK qualifications quite happily it's just that you have to go to college to get a Spanish qualification before you can work as a Sparks over there. There are times when I think we could learn from our "European Cousins"!!!!!
 
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dixon9

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It's getting better. Have ben in touch with a British sparks working in Spain. He told me the Spanish will accept the UK qualifications quite happily it's just that you have to go to college to get a Spanish qualification before you can work as a Sparks over there. There are times when I think we could learn from our "European Cousins"!!!!!

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Are you saying they accept British qualifications - therefore NO Spanish college?

Or despite having British qualifiactions you STILL have to go to a spanish college?
 
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tony.towa

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They will accept the UK qualifications however they require you to attend college and pass an exam in Spain before you can start work over there. I reckon this would be similar to the exam you need to work in Australia or New Zealand which ensures that you are aware of the differences in those countries
 
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Bane

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???

Are you saying they accept British qualifications - therefore NO Spanish college?

Or despite having British qualifiactions you STILL have to go to a spanish college?[/quote]

Yep. And you'd probably have to learn Spanish too. Scandalous eh? Who'd have thought it. Speaking Spanish in Spain...
 
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tony.towa

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Do I detect a slight hint of sarcasm.

Having now been back in touch with the British sparks it is almost a competancy and familiarisation exam however you have to attend a course at a Spanish college in order to take the exam.

Ok you need to have a good grasp of the spanish language so again I say, sometimes we could learn things from our European cousins.
 
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dixon9

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???

Are you saying they accept British qualifications - therefore NO Spanish college?

Or despite having British qualifiactions you STILL have to go to a spanish college?[/quote]

Yep. And you'd probably have to learn Spanish too. Scandalous eh? Who'd have thought it. Speaking Spanish in Spain...

No need to jump and down so quick! Wasn´t complaining mate - just trying to establish what he origonally meant.

(By the way, Im in Spain at the moment - and I speak Spanish fluently).
 
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tony.towa

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Dixon9, you could be the very person I need. Have just received a copy of spanish wiring regs by their regulatory authority. It's not available in English (or Welsh) so it's all in Spanish (just to please Bane). As far as I can make out their is nothing in there about ordering a beer and steak so I now need someone to translate it for me. Any volunteers????
 
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greekislandlover

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Can you get BS7671 in Welsh???
 
Just read this thread and many of the links with great interest. I wonder how far you have got with the spanish regs Tony?

Purly hearsay I was told you can have a translator present at the exam. Has anybody found out if there are any collages in the Malaga/Marbela regin that do the course?

PS. Tony, who is the regulatory body in Spain?
 
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Mac

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Just read this thread and many of the links with great interest. I wonder how far you have got with the spanish regs Tony?

Purly hearsay I was told you can have a translator present at the exam. Has anybody found out if there are any collages in the Malaga/Marbela regin that do the course?
I was told that at my college,all the east europeans were allowed translators.My tutor had a class full of poles and half of them couldn't speak english.This is the only country in the world that would allow that:eek:
 
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Guest123

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This thread is nearly a year old NoSparks, I dont hink you'll be getting a reply from him anytime soon as he hasn't logged in for 6 months.
 
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Andy Smith

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They will accept the UK qualifications however they require you to attend college and pass an exam in Spain before you can start work over there. I reckon this would be similar to the exam you need to work in Australia or New Zealand which ensures that you are aware of the differences in those countries
This is correct cheers :)
 
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Dixon9, you could be the very person I need. Have just received a copy of spanish wiring regs by their regulatory authority. It's not available in English (or Welsh) so it's all in Spanish (just to please Bane). As far as I can make out their is nothing in there about ordering a beer and steak so I now need someone to translate it for me. Any volunteers????
Home - Voltimum UK - Electrical Installation Products and Contracting Hi ,interesting thread and got me looking for more info this link may help in terminology i found by chance .If you get any feedback regards malaga region colleges let me know .
Thanks
colin
 
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MikeBird

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It's getting better. Have ben in touch with a British sparks working in Spain. He told me the Spanish will accept the UK qualifications quite happily it's just that you have to go to college to get a Spanish qualification before you can work as a Sparks over there. There are times when I think we could learn from our "European Cousins"!!!!!
Hi there, sorry to be a nuisance.
I am being told that all electrical outlets must be 1.4Mtrs above the floor by a Sapnish electrician who wants to charge me £10000 to rewire my house in Spain.
Surely this is a scam?
I would appreciate your comments
Regards
Michael Bird
 
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Bearing in mind that the MAXimum height to the top of a light switch or socket in the UK is 1.2 m I would agree. I suggest you ask him who he is registered with and what his registration number is. (You should do that anyway)

(PS. Minimum height in the UK is currently 450mm and these figures only apply to new builds not re-wires )
 
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mayfair

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Hi there, sorry to be a nuisance.
I am being told that all electrical outlets must be 1.4Mtrs above the floor by a Sapnish electrician who wants to charge me £10000 to rewire my house in Spain.
Surely this is a scam?
I would appreciate your comments
Regards
Michael Bird
normal re wire no where nnear rhat here m8
 
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coldelsol

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Hi Where in Spain are You.
You Have been quoted €10,000 for rewire .How big is your property appx.and how many light points and power points .And what is your allowance on ok Kw.from electricity board should be on your suppliers bill.do you have air con units and water heaters.
If your not to far I will give you Quotation and if a normal size villa or finca I should be able to halve it.I have a Spanish Electrician who will check my Installation and give a boletin + certificate once he is satisfied I am Qualified 2381 & 2391 C&G
 
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dcpenno

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How long is the college course because in australia i believe it is 12 months however whilst on the course you can work as a spark but cannot sign off and need to be supervised, thinking of moving to Almeria in southern Spain any help and comments would be good does anybody know the working hours. Also is renting property over there reasonable, i have been on internet and cost vary so much difficult to judge
 
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Bob D Nero

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Hi all just joined this forum
If anyone is interested I live in Menorca, was qualified in the Uk but still had to go through numerous bearucratic hoops lasting 4 years.
1 The Ministry of Education said it didnt recognise C&G - I believe they have an office in Madrid - I had to provide course sylabuss for everything going back 20 odd years.
2 18 months on I recieved the FP11 Tecnico Superior Qualification.
The end, not bloody likely I then had to take the Installer's exam - In Spanish - they only sit them twice a year here so 6 more months with various spanish wiring regs and other course books and a dictionary.
The End? Still not bloody likely you then have to apply for a Certificate as an Authorised Company if you want to issue your own paperwork.
This involves paying an engineer to say you have an extensive list of test equipment, (including things that cost a lot of euros that you will probably never use), a lock up of at least 25 square metres to store the above equipment and vastly overpriced public liability insurance, (my first year cost me over 800€)
And finally they sit sit on your paperwork for about 6 months then send you a letter saying you have to register self employed before you get an authoriastion number, in the Balearics this costs 254€ a month before you even open a toolbag. Oh and I forgot to mention about all the taxes you pay at every stage of the process.

I reccomend that unless you really really want to work as a spark here its just not worth the hassle:

Just to add the Spanish use REBT2002 which despite the language I found are similar to 7671 in that they use a paragraph to describe a sentance. all you really need to learn are the Spanish terms and you can pretty much understand most of it. The tables and calcs are pretty much the same after all even the Spanish can't change the laws of physics.
 
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cantabrian9

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what a load of B-----KS like i posted on another thread they do what they want, i was asked to wire some flats the builder had the cable already------ ALL GREEN/YELLOW!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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