Spurs

[Spudnik]

Your thoughts gentlemen please.

Kitchen RFC.

Double socket, spur down to single socket for fridge.

Spur also from same double socket to SFCU for boiler.

So, in effect, 4 cables into back of double socket.

Any reason why not?

 

[Sparky-Tom]

I thaught that only one spur per double socketwas allowed under the regs? Im assuming its on a ring main and that the room is not bigger than the area specified in the regs?

Not sure of numbers, not got books at home.

Although I am industrial, so im just going off what very little memory I have of the regs back at college many moons ago

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

hi j
i say its ok 1 point on 1 piece of cable

 

[scotsparky]

so Jason if i get you right there is 4 x 2.5 at the socket terminals? Thought they may be getting a bit tight?

I would think about combining them into the ring if possible.

 

[WB Scott]

I would split the double socket and add the spurs into the ring.

 

[grandad]

use this link, its from the red book, it shows rings and radials...what can and cant do

you may want to print this off if you have one of the first copies of the new regs to update them



www.------.org/publishing/wiring-regulations/updates/bs7671-2008-corrigendum-jul08.cfm?type=pdf

 

[a12jpm]

Surely a fused spur from the double is what is required?

 

[scotsparky]

a12jpm what is done at moment is 2 spurs of 1 double skocket. I and others recon if possible to combine it or at least one spur onto the ring.

 

[Mac]

Good luck at getting all them 2.5mm in 1 connection

Your thoughts gentlemen please.

Kitchen RFC.

Double socket, spur down to single socket for fridge.

Spur also from same double socket to SFCU for boiler.

So, in effect, 4 cables into back of double socket.

Any reason why not?

Can't you extend 1 of the legs and put both spurs on the ring.Shouldn't be a problem then

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

dont forget jason was only asking if there was any reason why you couldnt do what had been done
and its 2 seperate cable to 2 seperate points so its ok?
obviously there are better ways listed above

 

[Spudnik]

Sorry peeps, i let this one run without checking back.

Its existing at the moment.

Just to confirm, its a double socket on a kitchen RFC, which spurs to a boiler SFCU at 3A.

Then the fourth cable (from the same DS), drops down to a single socket behind a freestanding fridge.

Now as Mark said, although not ideal, i really cant see a problem, apart from being a little cramped in the back of the socket. It has a 35mm back box with standard white accessories.

Surely, from a loading point of view, its not a lot different than having two DS next to each other with a spur off of each socket?

I stand to be corrected...again.

 

[sparks1234]

Areb you not putting a switch spur in to control the fridge?, if so you could easily adjust to add the switched spur to the ring then spur off for the boiler

 

[Spudnik]

Areb you not putting a switch spur in to control the fridge?, if so you could easily adjust to add the switched spur to the ring then spur off for the boiler

Nooooooooooooo.

Its a PIR im doing.

What i am describing is already there.

Edit: Just realised i posted in the wrong forum.

 

[sparks1234]

Sorry Jason, hang my head in shame

 

[Spudnik]

Sorry Jason, hang my head in shame

No need mate.

I also have similar problems sometimes

 

[WB Scott]

Code 2, no immediate danger is there?

 

[Spudnik]

Code 2, no immediate danger is there?

No there isnt and to be honest, i think the worst it could be would be a 3.

Im still finding it hard to justify even a 3.

 

[chugs76]

you are only meant to have 1 spur unit for every skt outlet on a ring. anymore and your asking for trouble.

 

[Spudnik]

you are only meant to have 1 spur unit for every skt outlet on a ring. anymore and your asking for trouble.

Hi Chugs,

In what way?

 

[Mac]

I agree with Jason,in what way are you asking for trouble