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as far as i know the regs dont specifically disallow2 spurs off one socket/ point and from a technial point of view nothing is being compromised, except possibly the connection point due to all the cables in one junction.

from a PIR point of view if there is no evidence of overheating, all the joints are tight and there is no excessive (apparant) strain or tight bends on the cables it does not warrant a particular code. If any of the above is evident then a code 2 is appropriate.

from a best practice point of view I would not do this but would go with one of the other previously mentioned solutions.
 
think you will find no more spurs than sockets on the ring, does it say you cant put 2 of them off one socket rather than 1 off each
What would you do then.How are you supposed to isolate the boiler and fridge off 1 spur/socket:confused:
 
What would you do then.How are you supposed to isolate the boiler and fridge off 1 spur/socket:confused:

Have you got the right glasses on tonight???:D:D:D

He is saying that you are not allowed more spurs than there are sockets on a RFC.

So, 10 sockets on a RFC, no more than 10 spurs, but it does not say how they are connected.
 
What would you do then.How are you supposed to isolate the boiler and fridge off 1 spur/socket:confused:

What I said was that there is nothing to say you can't take 2 spurs off the ring from 1 socket, I said nothing about spurs for isolating fridges etc, if you go further back on the thread you will see I apologised to Jason as I thought he was considering not putting a switch spur in for the fridge.
 
Your thoughts gentlemen please.

Kitchen RFC.

Double socket, spur down to single socket for fridge.

Spur also from same double socket to SFCU for boiler.

So, in effect, 4 cables into back of double socket.

Any reason why not?
i cant see any problem with what has been done as long as the terminations look like they are holding up but would probably give it a code 4 to cover my arse as i would be surprised if there is anything in the brb showing this as good practice ;)
 
i would have thought that the reason why you cant spur two sockets out of one existing socket is because of the loading at the terminals
thats why if you want to put more than one socket/twin socket in a radial off a ring,you have to go from a fused spur to limit it.
:)
 
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grandad if the terminals are tight then they arent carrying the load just holding the connection together

mark
the terminals are part of the conductive circuit and designed and sized to carry a certain load.

think terminal block....you can squeeze 2.5 in a 5amp but you wouldnt use it to join a circuit that could carry 15A....tight or not:)
 
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i would say that from what the regs say, a spur per socket, or a fused spur per socket which can have an unlimited number of sockets from it because the fused spur is limiting the sockets to 13Amps.

Dave
 
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The two questions I would ask myself would be

Q1 Is it dangerous? A No
Q2 Does it contravine BS7671? A Not to my knowledge

Jason' s origional question was 'why not?'

So despite the problems that may be involved terminating 4 cables in single terminals, and therefore 'not good practice', I do not know of any reason 'why not'.
 

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