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ElectriciaNot

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Hi Electricians,

I'm not an electrician. I have some electrifying questions and since there seems to be a forum for everyone these days, I thought I'd come here and ask you guys. I hope you don't mind the intrusion.

Basically we're private tenants. We've been informed that the property we're in is wired to 16th edition, there are no back boxes on light switches and power sockets, and there is no continuity on earth. This was on a British Gas form in a box called "At Risk / Not to Current Standards" so obviously we're just a little concerned about these items.

All this means nothing technically to us. We've been told to use plastic switches. I note a few of the current power sockets have metal fronts but with plastic at the entrances to the plug-sticks holes. The rest are plastic. Our decorator however has said he will not loosen any sockets when decorating like he normally would as there are no back boxes and due to the earthing.

Can anyone explain some of this to me a bit more, as simply as possible if possible please? Am I all safe? Should I be asking the landlady to do anything about any of this.

Thanks in advance,
Lisa.
 
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i would ask your land lady to have periodic inspection report carried out by an electrician most landlords would have this done at change of tennant.
it sounds as if the house is not even to 16th edition i would push for this it will list any problems and how serious they are.
 
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ElectriciaNot

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I asked but got this reply "In connection with your request for a full inspection, your landlord has confirmed in writing to us that the property complies with the Safety Regulations 1994 and 1996."

 
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acat

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Hi Lisa

An earth is your safeguard against problems. Think of electricity as water for a moment water will always take the easiest route so will electricity.

If for instance a metal object in your home became live and you touched it the electricity would flow through you to earth and you would get a shock.

However if you had the metal object earthed and it becomes live then you should be able to touch it and not get a shock as the earthing offers virtually no resistance to the flow of electricity and it would flow along the earthing rather than you.

Does that help you at all

Chris
 
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ElectriciaNot

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Thanks Chris. I was told not to have metal light switches, so that now makes sense as electricity won't travel through to me from the switch. Would you say then that plastic socket fronts won't help at all as the item such as hairdryer could become live and give a shock?

As the agency don't seem prepared to arrange a test, I think I'll be getting a test done myself. Rather my wallet hurts than my self.
 
I asked but got this reply "In connection with your request for a full inspection, your landlord has confirmed in writing to us that the property complies with the Safety Regulations 1994 and 1996."


this statement means nothing to me as an electrician and says nothing about the state of the insallation depending on your relationship with the landlord you should push for a p i r
 
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Although most rented properties have a PIR on a change of occupancy, it is not the law.

However, the landlord has a duty of care to the tenants and so must ensure that the property is safe.

It may be better for you to arrange a PIR and then contact the letting agent and tell them of the results.
 
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ElectriciaNot

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Thanks Jason. Yes, I think I will do that. How much should I be looking at for one of these, just so that I know not to get stung? Also, where's best to find an electrician that would be trustworthy?
 
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acat

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Hi Lisa

I would suggest that you get someone to have a look for you. From what you have said it sounds like a shoddy job at your place and everyone seems to agree. If the cabling to your sockets has an earth and this goes back to your consumer unit then your hair dryer ect will be earthed through the socket. If you dont have an earth to the socket then your hair dryer wont be earthed either.

Have a look at your hair dryer does it have what looks like two boxes on it one inside the other. If it does the har dryer is double insulated and does not need an earth. If it does have the two boxes undo your plug and you should find no earth connection. The two boxes can be found on the makers info on the appliance.

Chris

Lisa

Ive sent you a private message have a look at it

Chris
 
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kung

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Hi Lisa
Price varies from contractor to contractor best to check on NICEIC/ELECSA/NAPIT etc websites for an approved contractor/domestic installer as these are registered so you will have more backup that its done right.
Regards
Kung.
Or you could put area you live down and contact number and one of us might be able to take a look and do a P.I.R.
 
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spark1

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Ask your Landlord if the insurance company will pay out with the electrical installation in this condition if the place goes on fire....Show him these comments from the forum.

You need some urgent attention to the electrics by the sound of it.

By the way ,what was the reason for the original comments form from british gas ?



regards......spark1
 
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Guest123

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Hi there.

The bit that particularly worries me is and I quote"no continuity on earth" does it say on what particular earth?? sockets, lights etc, could be very dangerous dpending on what earth it is.

Would definately advise along the same lines as others and get an independant opinion from another spark.

Cheers.
 
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