Using earth as neutral wire?

[linuxthefish]

If I wired a socket with live to live, earth to neutral, and earth to earth, would this be dangerous and why? I only have a live and earth wire going to a new socket.

400w max would be drawn from the socket.

 

[Octopus]

If you've got an RCD it would trip immediately!

 

[monkeyelectric]

Oh dear god!

 

[somersetsparks]

If I wired a socket with live to live, earth to neutral, and earth to earth, would this be dangerous and why? I only have a live and earth wire going to a new socket.

400w max would be drawn from the socket.

Why didn't you pull in a neutral

 

[onions1066]

College question?

 

[Billythekid]

Even if no RCD was installed. This would be classed as a PEN conductor, absolutely forbidden within the installation! No, not acceptable whatsoever.

 

[pete555]

back to school young man

 

[Guest111]

If I wired a socket with live to live, earth to neutral, and earth to earth, would this be dangerous and why? I only have a live and earth wire going to a new socket.

400w max would be drawn from the socket.

Apart from anything else,in a worst case scenario losing the earth at the board end would cause any metal cased equipment on that circuit to become live.

 

[Paul.M]

So you have a live (line) and two earths (cpc's) on your cable but not a neutral?????

Even my wife laughed at this question.

 

[trev]

Crikey! Well surely you would realise that you have not pulled in a neutral, would it not be obvious? Please tell us this is theoretical

 

[linuxthefish]

So this would only be a problem if the earth was disconnected from the CU?

 

[Des 56]

Crikey! Well surely you would realise that you have not pulled in a neutral, would it not be obvious? Please tell us this is theoretical[/QUOTE]

I have grave doubts for the future of our trade if its not trev

 

[trev]

Mate either tell us why you're asking this or just pull in a neutral!

 

[trev]

Crikey! Well surely you would realise that you have not pulled in a neutral, would it not be obvious? Please tell us this is theoretical[/QUOTE]

I have grave doubts for the future of our trade if its not trev

I might pack it all in. Wanna buy some test gear Des?

 

[Elmer BeFuddled]

Unless its central heating controls. The plumbers favourite action!

 

[Paul.M]

So this would only be a problem if the earth was disconnected from the CU?

Q. What size CSA is the neutral and the CPC conductors? Are they the same? Does one have insulation and the other one doesn't? What are the colour identifications on both conductors? Where are they terminated in the CU? Could that cause any form of confusion?

 

[Octopus]

So this would only be a problem if the earth was disconnected from the CU?

If you connect earth to neutral at the switch and disconnect the earth at the cu it wouldn't work.

 

[markc123]

If I wired a socket with live to live, earth to neutral, and earth to earth, would this be dangerous and why? I only have a live and earth wire going to a new socket.

400w max would be drawn from the socket.

If you wired the socket, then why an earth didn't you put a neutral in ? confused.

Who wires a socket without a neutral :s

 

[linuxthefish]

I've connected it up, and it's all working fine now. I don't have an RCD on the lighting circuit, so it did not trip

 

[markc123]

I've connected it up, and it's all working fine now. I don't have an RCD on the lighting circuit, so it did not trip

Oh-oh. How have you connected it?

Just because it works doesn't mean its fine lol. Have you slung a neutral in?