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Gavin John Hyde

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I have 3 rolls of 1omm twin and earth in old colours, 3 50m rolls to be exact unopened still shrink wrapped. Been lurking in the garage for some time now and having sorted out am unsure what to do.

Is there a regulation actually saying the cable can not be used if it has been adequately sleeved / conductors marked/labelled appropriately?
obviously the colours changed but its arguably no different to using say a 4 core swa and labelling the conductors up for single phase work.
current retail prices for 150m of 10mm would be >£150 so dont want to scrap it unless I have too as it would bring in considerably less than buying more 10mm.
coincidentally its rare i buy 10mm these days use a fair bit of 6mm though.
 
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Yes in the 17th there is a reg that says the colours red and black shall not be used . I will look it up to see if it is in 18th if you want lol
 
Gavin John Hyde

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Yes in the 17th there is a reg that says the colours red and black shall not be used . I will look it up to see if it is in 18th if you want lol
surely though if all the conductors are sleeved in brown, blue and earth sleeved green/yellow with no red or black clearly visible then whats the deviation from the regs?
 
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I agree with you , it was very unpopular at the time and still gets up the nose.
 
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CPR requirements of cables
implementation of the CPR, when it became mandatory for cable manufacturers and suppliers to apply CE marking to any products covered by the harmonised European standard EN 50575.
Old cable colours will not comply with this as required also by bs7671, in fact any cables regardless before the implementation of the CPR will not comply
 
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Just wait for Brexit we will go back to those colours in a couple of weeks. I would use it in certain situations. While it may say black and white should not be used and EU requirements apply I say they do not, we are not part of the EU thus it does not apply to me at least I don't know about the rest of you. But I definitely do not recognise the locus standii of the euro stormbahnfuhrer thingy over there. Junky and Merky have nothing on me.
 
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You could go down the route of,and i'm certainly not suggesting this,but how about "that cable was already in..." ;)
 
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No problem using red/black For alterations to other red/black wiring
 
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A load of red black cable of a size you rarely use ? Get it weighed in I say.
 
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Or list it on eBay

Red/black cable sells like hot cakes

You will probably get £50 per drum on ebay as a cash collection only
 
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I’ve done a job where the customer inherited drums of old SWA when he bought the property.

Loads of brown, blue, g/y sleeving and mixed colour warning stickers on everything.

It’s identified correctly... and if it’s confusing to some future electrician, they shouldn’t be in the job.

I wouldn’t do it for old T&E. You can bin that
 

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