What a mess, only supposed to add a couple of sockets too..

[zeroberto]

Going to look into this tomorrow


the client sent this thru for me to look at. Interesting. Not sure It'll turn out well. For either of us.
Iain

 

[Pete999]

What are you looking at it for?

 

[zeroberto]

Adding a couple of new sockets and wanted to get an idea of condition of installation before I went over. Client unsure if MCB's or fuses so I asked for a photo. Got this. First thing I noticed, don't know about you, was the supply tails "buried" in handy foam. Along with circuit cables if that's what the PVC's are. In my experience that stuff doesn't go well with cables so I'll be checking out the condition at the board first. Might be completely wrong and it's all ok, hope so.

 

[Pete999]

The boards look relatively new, ask your client for a copy of the EIC that should have been issued and see what the Sparky said about the foam.

 

[telectrix]

2 of those Volex CUs appear to be switched off (redundant), and i see no RCD protection at all.

 

[zeroberto]

I thought they looked around 10-15 years old (as telectrix says, no RCD) so unlikely to be any installation report. The foam is clearly after the boards, probably to reduce draughts. Yes T, noticed the switched off heating boards, and it looks like the heating has been removed (blocked though tails).
Went to a 12 way MK grid dimmer switch system once which was tripping RCD. took the 3 faceplates off to look inside, same foam as this had been used by joiners to seal round the back box entry holes and had welded the cables together due to the heat I guess from the dimmer modules. It's not nice stuff and I suppose my concern is what's lurking behind these boards. Will find out soon enough.

 

[SparkyChick]

Good luck... I think you're going to need it... in spades!

 

[zeroberto]

Thanks SC - it'll probably be okay though, that's usually the way, the ones you think will be crap turn out fine and vice versa!

 

[Specialist]

Going to look into this tomorrow
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the client sent this thru for me to look at. Interesting. Not sure It'll turn out well. For either of us.
Iain

Just when you thought it was safe to open your emails, someone goes & sends you dirty pictures

 

[Octopus]

Is this domestic, or commercial?

 

[zeroberto]

Domestic, not sure size of house yet but won't be big.

 

[buzzlightyear]

how many sockets are you putting in ?

 

[telectrix]

thought it might have been industrial. 1 CU per shift.lights go off, it's home time.

 

[zeroberto]

how many sockets are you putting in ?

Only been asked to change 2 singles to twins, and look at bathroom lighting. But i'm going to have to have a good look at these boards.

 

[buzzlightyear]

recommend rcd twin sockets without changing the MCB to RCBO.
you will find it difficult to put a new rcbo in that board .

 

[Octopus]

change a 1G to 2G - is RCD protection necessary?

tin hat on

 

[zeroberto]

change a 1G to 2G - is RCD protection necessary?

tin hat on

Well now, there's a question. If you are replacing a faulty twin and discover it's not RCD'd do you raise it? I probably would but not as in "it has to be done" more that they should look at upgrading at some point. As a personal protection benefit if nothing else.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Only been asked to change 2 singles to twins

yes ,is the answer ,but if it is faulty and you change the socket fronts
and there is no rcd on the circuit then put in rcd for safe sake.

 

[Lee42]

2 of those Volex CUs appear to be switched off (redundant), and i see no RCD protection at all.

Don't you mean 2 of the CUs are upside down