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rwhite2012

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Hi can someone tell me what the difference between a domestic installer and an approved contractor please?

I have a feeling an approved contractoris someone with nvq level 3 and 2391 test and inspect but im not sure and cant find this info out anywhere.

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In relation to what? NICEIC membership?
 
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Domestic installer is deemed competent to work on Houses.

An approved contractor is deemed competent to work in all fields.

However that said there is absolutely no reason why a part-p or domestic installer sparks cannot work in commercial or industrial so long as he is competent.

To work in houses and to be able to notify your work you NEED a minimum of DI/part-p status.

To work in other fields you simply need to be competent no requirement for any scheme membership.

If that sounds confusing well that's because the whole lot is a big mess and the whole industry is confused by it.
 
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Yep as above, very confusing.

To work in someones house = 5 week course and a regs course

To work in a building that could protentially injure 1000's of members of the public, or in industrial with high volts and amps available = nothing!

Generally tho the AC status is the NICEIC was of saying your as competent as can be in their eyes.
 
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rwhite2012

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yes in relation to NICEIC membership topquark, iv done 3 years at college already, i know i need to have part p and 17th edition to be domestic installer but i just want to know what i would need to be registered as an approved contractor with the niceic, thanks for replies people
 
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yes in relation to NICEIC membership topquark, iv done 3 years at college already, i know i need to have part p and 17th edition to be domestic installer but i just want to know what i would need to be registered as an approved contractor with the niceic, thanks for replies people
No you don't need to have part P, it's just part of a building regulation. Just another con basically, to part you from yet more money... Once you have your full C&G 2330, it's only the 17th you will need, though the NVQ 3 would be more than advantageous to you.... But for that you need to be employed in the industry.
 
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Back in the day AC was seen as the pinnacle of achievement for an electrical company. You needed a minimum of 12 months trading under your belt in all fields ...ind/comm etc, many completed test certs, a full suite of qualifications, books, insurances etc etc.

Nowadays it dont mean squat, anyone can get AC without too much bother at all.
 
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Back in the day AC was seen as the pinnacle of achievement for an electrical company. You needed a minimum of 12 months trading under your belt in all fields ...ind/comm etc, many completed test certs, a full suite of qualifications, books, insurances etc etc.

Nowadays it dont mean squat, anyone can get AC without too much bother at all.
The mistake NIC made is not creating a seperate company for their DI scheme (much like ECA did)

As they choose not to the AC has been diluted to almost nothing.
 

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Back in the day AC was seen as the pinnacle of achievement for an electrical company. You needed a minimum of 12 months trading under your belt in all fields ...ind/comm etc, many completed test certs, a full suite of qualifications, books, insurances etc etc.

Nowadays it dont mean squat, anyone can get AC without too much bother at all.
It pains me to say it but I fear you're right Lenny. It's getting towards 20 years since we gained AC standard and it had to be earned rather than just bought. Still think it's worth a hell of a lot more than being a DI though, some of whom seem to have very little experience.
 

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Jib website has the grading definitions on, a google search will reveal all. Or look through my previous posts i put a link on for someone who was asking about cscs/jib cards i think.

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Domestic installer is deemed competent to work on Houses.

An approved contractor is deemed competent to work in all fields.

However that said there is absolutely no reason why a part-p or domestic installer sparks cannot work in commercial or industrial so long as he is competent.

To work in houses and to be able to notify your work you NEED a minimum of DI/part-p status.

To work in other fields you simply need to be competent no requirement for any scheme membership.

If that sounds confusing well that's because the whole lot is a big mess and the whole industry is confused by it.
really?...you dont NEED to be part p registered....you can inform the LABC of intended works.....who will then send out a buildings inspector to look at the work being carried out at various stages....
 
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really?...you dont NEED to be part p registered....you can inform the LABC of intended works.....who will then send out a buildings inspector to look at the work being carried out at various stages....
Yes, .... But at an extortionate cost!! lol!!!

You'll be lucky if you get a completion visit, from what i can gather!!
 

Nellie44Militel

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Domestic installer is deemed competent to work on Houses.

An approved contractor is deemed competent to work in all fields.

However that said there is absolutely no reason why a part-p or domestic installer sparks cannot work in commercial or industrial so long as he is competent.

To work in houses and to be able to notify your work you NEED a minimum of DI/part-p status.

To work in other fields you simply need to be competent no requirement for any scheme membership.

If that sounds confusing well that's because the whole lot is a big mess and the whole industry is confused by it.

I was just browsing for relevant posts for my project and I happened to stumble upon yours. Thanks for the useful information!
 

Nellie44Militel

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Domestic installer is deemed competent to work on Houses.

An approved contractor is deemed competent to work in all fields.

However that said there is absolutely no reason why a part-p or domestic installer sparks cannot work in commercial or industrial so long as he is competent.

To work in houses and to be able to notify your work you NEED a minimum of DI/part-p status.

To work in other fields you simply need to be competent no requirement for any scheme membership.

If that sounds confusing well that's because the whole lot is a big mess and the whole industry is confused by it.
I was just browsing for relevant posts for my project and I happened to stumble
upon yours. Thanks for the useful information!

dave
 
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rwhite2012

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thanks for your posts people, so again its just more money they try to con out of everyone, fantastic! lol
 
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