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So wait...they've used the lives as neutrals and neutrals as lives??From what I understand she didn't ask for the plumber to do the electrics the person overseeing the project did and she wasn't aware that the plumber had done it and it was only by chance that she found out about what had gone on. From what I understand she wouldn't have allowed the plumber to do the electrics if she had been aware he was going to.
They have used a wire with red insulation and at another point a brown wire both of which are neutral wires. There is a Live wire as well where the insulation is blue coloured.
You are correct, there are some "A" class smart A@$&S on here. But as one of them I sincerely believe that defending customers for getting the plumber to do the electrics is about a stupid a post as I've ever seen on this forum, so have a dumb. Oh and thanks for the return dumb, (not there yet but anticipating one in retaliation).There's some "A" class smart A@$&S on here! How many customers are even aware of the need for testing & certification? They just want the job done. If a plumber says he can do it then most of them will not even give it a second thought! This forum is becoming more & more unpleasant every time I visit it!!!
Sadly you have made matters worse in that you have worked on the installation changing to a junction box. So if you went to trading standards the persons who did the original work will say it is not their work someone else has worked on it. You may be in the frame instead of the rogue traders. As you say you are not qualified you may put yourself in the way of prosecution and your friend as he is responsible for ensuring electrical work is undertaken safely at law. So it may backfire spectacularly! First, never involve yourself in this manner and tell your friend unsafe work may leave him open to prosecution. His insurance will be void in the event of an electrical fire or someone being harmed through his cavalier approach as well as prosecution and difficulty selling the house. Sheesh!
You may well be right I certainly agree with what you have stated. However the case you have quoted the house owner was acting perfectly legally and entirely within building regs notification requirements. While I also agree that was an overstatement and maybe should have read, ...may have insurance implications... I will be more careful of my wording in future.due to down lighters fitted by the house owner caught fire
The plumbers public liability certainly won’t cover him....You may well be right I certainly agree with what you have stated. However the case you have quoted the house owner was acting perfectly legally and entirely within building regs notification requirements. While I also agree that was an overstatement and maybe should have read, ...may have insurance implications... I will be more careful of my wording in future.
However I do have some reservations regards your statement in that it may suggest to a wider audience reading this thread that even if you do, or someone does negligent electrical work it is ok as insurance will pay out. Personally I would not take that as a given fact. I would tend to more suggest to err on the side of caution and at least consider or consult with the insurance company prior to say as a plumber, undertaking electrical work. The legal underpinnings of the regulations and statute around electrical work are somewhat complex and lack of compliance to the aforementioned can be a legal minefield.
Noooooo! I didn’t do it I let the plumber do it!I’d love to hear that conversation between homeowner and insurance company - “you’ve installed down lights - and you’re not qualified - and you’ve not tested them - and then they’ve caught fire and burned your roof - yes, that’s no problem at all, fully covered by your buildings policy”.
I must say a lot more people want certification nowadays and are aware of the need to have it. I would say at least 60% of domestic customers ask for it, and certainly all commercial require it.How many customers are even aware of the need for testing & certification
That may well be because of the content you are posting it does seem more unpleasant when you visit and contribute such statements so I can agree with you that farThis forum is becoming more & more unpleasant every time I visit it!!!
only last week a householder lost their roof due to down lighters fitted by the house owner caught fire . The insurance is paying up and relocated them whilst the roof is being replaced.
I doubt it Davesparks, when i was afire fighter i didnt think much about it , turned up , done what i was told to do and went back to the station and back to work.Please tell us that they are being prosecuted for putting their family and the firefighters lives at risk?
And for me this is the crux of it. Though any loss is devastating, losing a life or serious life changing injury is far more devastating than any material loss. Dodgy tradespeople and no nothing d.i.y'ers don't appreciate the possible implications of their actions.Please tell us that they are being prosecuted for putting their family and the firefighters lives at risk?
The registered electrician for the project came round to finish off some other jobs, it was mentioned to him the bad electrics and he said its not worth worrying about.
After he finished the work on another part of the house I inspected the electricians work (although didn't do anything to it) and if anything the electricians work was done worse and more dangerous than the plumber's electrical work.
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