Well spotted, that also explains the neutral being nicked by the fixing screw post!
Yeah that was a big giveaway to a poor installation !
Soo many things wrong there
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Well spotted, that also explains the neutral being nicked by the fixing screw post!
Unfortunately no pic of busbar PC. If upgraded tails to double insulated and swapped terminations over at main switch do you think this would bring installation upto satisfactory?There is a special level of Fail here.
A photo showing the busbar at the incomer switch would be interesting!
- Not only did they use a different brand of replacement switch, but they managed to chose MK which (I think) are one of the few CU makers that have the switch on the left.
- Then to compound it, instead of just swapping L & N designators on the switch they have fudged the neutral bar wire and busbar in some way to fit it in.
- And let us not forget the burned live cable that has sufficient slack lower down to at least have had the worst 2cm or so removed and stripped back.
What is the rest of the installation like only you can answer that question.
As freddo says you can get the correct switch fairly cheaply so best to replace it and fit new double insulated tails (assuming no butchery of the busbar to make the MK one fit). The 19-strand flexible ones make life a who lot easier!Unfortunately no pic of busbar PC. If upgraded tails to double insulated and swapped terminations over at main switch do you think this would bring installation upto satisfactory?
On checking main fuse I come across what you can see in photo. A hollow round tube in fuse link terminals. This surely isn't legit? The fuse was sealed so I assume it was supplier that put it in
I'd also want to at least fit the correct main switch, they aren't exactly expensive!!
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My initial reaction is that is wrong, there ought to be an accessible means of isolation, but off-hand I don't know if that is actually required.One thing that surprised me was no isolator for shower hardwired in. What's your take on that?
One thing that surprised me was no isolator for shower hardwired in. What's your take on that?
Any work now to current standards...18th.You are carrying out the EICR and should know what needs be done to bring the installation up to a condition to comply with when the regulations when installed
My initial reaction is that is wrong, there ought to be an accessible means of isolation, but off-hand I don't know if that is actually required.
Any idea why? Was there an old wall or pull switch that had been bypassed to save upgrading it to match current rating, or simply none ever fitted at all?
Partly, but judgement needs to be applied. There are still plenty of (1970's) installations wired at a time when no RCD protection was installed even to external socket outlets. Lack of RCD protection to an external socket would now be a code 2.Agreed but only test and inspect to when installed
What is your take on that? Do you think this is non-compliant with BS7671 and if so do you think it is something which affects safety and therfore needs to be coded?
As a person carrying out EICRs you obviously have a greater than average knowledge of the regulations.
Note that not all MCB's are deemed adequate as a means of safe isolation for maintenance and repair, 3871's for example.My understanding of regs is that there is no actual regulation that specifies need for local isolation? The mcb is adequate to provide the isolation. Although that said shower should be installed to manufacturers instruction but as cannot gain access to this at the most I should note this on report but in terms of a regulation to back up a coding I am not aware of this. I may be wrong and hear others takes on it that is why I ask to be sure.
Agreed but only test and inspect to when installed
My understanding of regs is that there is no actual regulation that specifies need for local isolation? The mcb is adequate to provide the isolation. Although that said shower should be installed to manufacturers instruction but as cannot gain access to this at the most I should note this on report but in terms of a regulation to back up a coding I am not aware of this. I may be wrong and hear others takes on it that is why I ask to be sure.
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