Smokes in lofts

[onions1066]

Anyone else having problems with heat detectors on lofts over the hot period? We've fitted quite a few lately after property's have had pv panels installed. They have been going wild over the hot spell. Just wondered if anyone has had the same?

 

[Dohnut]

I fit a lot of smoke detectors in lofts for student accommodation and haven't had any reports of problems.

What make and model of detectors are you using?

 

[trev]

Smoke and heat detectors in non habitable/ non transit areas?
Why Aye.

 

[onions1066]

Smoke and heat detectors in non habitable/ non transit areas?
Why Aye.

Excuse me mr onions would you like to fit lots of smokes in lots of lofts for lots of money..............................sorry I can't as its not required to comply with an LD3 system. Trev can you guess which bit of that conversation didn't happen? :6:

And fitting aico heat detectors.

 

[trev]

I agree with you to a point Onions mate, if the client insists on it and is prepared to pay then fair enough but in a situation like that I'd tell them they were wasting their money and explain why.
He who pays the piper calls the tune though.

 

[ipf]

Excuse me mr onions would you like to fit lots of smokes in lots of lofts for lots of money..............................sorry I can't as its not required to comply with an LD3 system. Trev can you guess which bit of that conversation didn't happen? :6:

And fitting aico heat detectors.

Why call it 'Smokes in lofts', then ?

 

[micknew]

Heat detectors trigger when subjected to a sudden rise in temperature so perhaps they're faulty.

 

[onions1066]

I agree with you to a point Onions mate, if the client insists on it and is prepared to pay then fair enough but in a situation like that I'd tell them they were wasting their money and explain why.
He who pays the piper calls the tune though.

Well the lots of money bit wasn't quite right either. But it's to do with a faulty pv inverter in a loft which was picked up and suggested that smoke detection should be fitted near the inverter.

 

[onions1066]

Why call it 'Smokes in lofts', then ?

oooooooo ipf sorry if it offended you so here goes .............. Heats in lofts

 

[micknew]

oooooooo ipf sorry if it offended you so here goes .............. Heats in lofts

Sarcastic remark Mr Onions!

 

[ipf]

No offence, just wondering.
Don't like smoking in attics, anyway.

 

[tazz]

Never hear of fitting heats in a loft area, would not form part of any standard L1 part 1 or LD2/3 part 6....and there would be a raging fire of 65 degrees before they were any use. Smoke detectors are fiitted into most roof voids areas if they are 800mm or greater, back to part 6 some insurance companies do request smokes in loft spaces especially if the property has thatched roof, or the building is listed.

 

[singingfraggle]

as tazz said insurance companies like thatched properties to have smokes then dust becomes a problem

 

[onions1066]

Never hear of fitting heats in a loft area, would not form part of any standard L1 part 1 or LD2/3 part 6....and there would be a raging fire of 65 degrees before they were any use. Smoke detectors are fiitted into most roof voids areas if they are 800mm or greater, back to part 6 some insurance companies do request smokes in loft spaces especially if the property has thatched roof, or the building is listed.

any suggestions then tazz to a solution? I just carry this out as instructed nothing to do with the design.

 

[tazz]

This is when choosing between optical and ionisation comes in, if the roof is thatched straw then ionisation will need to be used, also great for detecting smoldering fire in early stage. Optical will give constant false alarm in theis situation.
Heats in summer time are a pain with dry heat and usless in winter time for detection.......so its down to correct selection of detector.
Hope this helps