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Hi every one
does any one know where I can get a copy of my Indentures as I lost them years ago. I served my time in a shipyard in Sunderland and was issued my Indentures in 1984
 
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His Apprenticeship Indentures not his Qualification certificates
 
I feel for you, the most important piece of paper you will ever have.

The shipyard will have gone in to receivership, find out who took that over.

I was indentured about the same time. We also did the EITB J02/J22 (the NVQ is a watered down version).
The C&G should have records of EITB candidates or be able to point you to the repository of records.

I’m sorry but now I’m going to give the bad news:
When I signed my indentures to start I was given a copy that didn’t carry the company warrant. When complete I was told I had the one and only signed, sealed, document, the company didn’t hold a 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] copy.
They held a record of apprentice No.XXXXXX (start and finish date) that was purely perfunctory.
This may be your lead as the receivers can’t dispose of personnel records in the event of future claims.


I wish you the very best of luck.
 
  1. An indenture is a legal contract that reflects a debt or purchase obligation. It specifically refers to two types of practices: in historical usage, an indentured servant status, and in modern usage, an instrument used for commercial debt or real estate transaction.
 
Tidy Max said:
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I have mine and I have my Father's safely locked away and to answer your question when a school leaver was offered an apprnticeship he went with his Father to meet the Works Manager of the company that was providing the apprenticeship.

There, an agreement was drawn-up which listed what was expected of the Apprentice and what the Company would provide in the way of Training and the hours of work, rate of pay etc.

It was signed by all parties - the apprentice, his Father and the Company Manager and kept by the company until the apprentice finished his "time" then it was handed to him usually by the manager in a little celebration.

It tells the dates that the apprenticeship was served and the description o the trade that the apprentice is qualified in.

In my Father's case, his says he was a Fitter & Turner and in mine says I am a Precision Engineer - so what the f*** have I been messing about with wires & pipes for?? :thinking::thinking:

Piccies here (not mine though) ... > https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...If5D8WsUf20gsgN&ved=0CE4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=646
 
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Geordie Spark said:
I have mine and I have my Father's safely locked away and to answer your question when a school leaver was offered an apprnticeship he went with his Father to meet the Works Manager of the company that was providing the apprenticeship.

There, an agreement was drawn-up which listed what was expected of the Apprentice and what the Company would provide in the way of Training and the hours of work, rate of pay etc.

It was signed by all parties - the apprentice, his Father and the Company Manager and kept by the company until the apprentice finished his "time" then it was handed to him usually by the manager in a little celebration.

It tells the dates that the apprenticeship was served and the description o the trade that the apprentice is qualified in.

In my Father's case, his says he was a Fitter & Turner and in mine says I am a Precision Engineer - so what the f*** have I been messing about with wires & pipes for?? :thinking::thinking:

Piccies here (not mine though) ... > https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...If5D8WsUf20gsgN&ved=0CE4QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=646
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Geordie - that is straight out of Catherine Cookson. I had a vivid mental image of your description.:smile5:
 
Have the same for my father who was a Tool Maker. He mislaid/lost his C&G Cert's along the way, it took me nearly two years (a good few years back ) getting copies of his cert's from the C&G Institute. Purely because of bone idleness of the staff that couldn't be bothered searching the archives, even with supplying them with exact dates taken directly from his indenture papers. Kicked up such a stink with the management side, that they waived the charges along with a written apology....
 
Engineer54 said:
Have the same for my father who was a Tool Maker. He mislaid/lost his C&G Cert's along the way, it took me nearly two years (a good few years back ) getting copies of his cert's from the C&G Institute. Purely because of bone idleness of the staff that couldn't be bothered searching the archives, even with supplying them with exact dates taken directly from his indenture papers. Kicked up such a stink with the management side, that they waived the charges along with a written apology....
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I like you ..... You're just like me - a right bolshie barstool!!! ;)

Edit:

I have written apologies from both Dawn Primarollo AND Jane Kennedy and a nice little sum of compo for the balls up that HMRC made of my Working Tax Credits some time back !
 
Engineer54 said:
Haha... Still took me nearly two bloody years to get them though!!
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That's about how long it took me to sort the Tax Credits out!!

I ended-up as a moderator on the Tax Credit Casualties website.

It was horrific reading about that vast number of people who were screwed over and even worse hearing about what was going on inside HMRC from the whistle blowers we had planted. It was incompetence on an industrial scale.
 
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