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Hello every one, befor i start i would like to appolagize for my bad spelling!
so i am (i think i am) a qualified spark done my 3 years at college what not done my part p 16th edition but i didnt do my AM 2 or NVQ lvl 3 while at college! when i was at college i was working for network rail or as i knew them NOTWORK RAIL! and was mainly doing HV maintenence and electrical instalations in sub stations, i also done a few odd jobs i.e a very small bit of house bashing. i left notwork rail to join a building services consultancy and am not well on my way to becoming a TOP electrical design engineer! i have also completed my frst year of a HNC in building services electrical, in taking this new job i had to take a huge! pay cut and am now all my savings are gone and im in the red! so im starting to do some sparking on the side, i just have a few questions in regards to me working...

When i hve done house bashing befor i was just working, my mate done everything else certificat and that, i didnt want to ask him and make myself look a little silly... but what do you need to certificate a job? can i do it myself...? what forms need to be done? (i know how to fill out all of the forms just not sure if i can and what ones to do)

thanks for having a look, i look forward to some replies!
Simon
 
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sivoodoo

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hey cossie are you for real???
The guy needs an answer!

Trouble, you need your 17th ed and your installation and test cert.
City and guilds 2391 as a minimum.
 
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Trouble

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yes i am for real.... (you got to learn some where...)
thank you for the response 2391 here i come!

p.s i know i should know this by now but working on the railways is completly diffrent to work enviroment. ive never needed to know anything about writing certificates...
 
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sivoodoo

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WTF has spelling and grammer got to do with it?
 
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PAUL M

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Trouble, you need your 17th ed and your installation and test cert.
City and guilds 2391 as a minimum.[/quote]
No he doesnt,2391 is not needed to join the NICEIC domestic installer scheme,i should know i have been one for the last two years.i beleive you can do the EAL domestic installer course but will need 17th regs.ask shakey he will put you right.
 
WTF has spelling and grammer got to do with it?

Everything, if you can't do the basics then you either have a problem(if this is the case i apologise) or you are not clever enough to get anywhere near being a spark, and in his own words "i think i am" FFS
 
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sivoodoo

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Really? Well I am not the worlds most articualte and my spelling is quite poor, I am training to become a spark as I find the work interesting and chalenging and usefull for the situation I am in (converting a large victorian house back to a family home) I also have two degrees, one of them in Biochemistry and am a fully qualiified health and safety officer, and I did not even pass my English CSE. Yes I understand that good basic written English is important but c'mon, it is not "Everything".
Paul M, thanks for the correction on the 2391.
Cheers
Si.
 
Really? Well I am not the worlds most articualte and my spelling is quite poor, I am training to become a spark as I find the work interesting and chalenging and usefull for the situation I am in (converting a large victorian house back to a family home) I also have two degrees, one of them in Biochemistry and am a fully qualiified health and safety officer, and I did not even pass my English CSE. Yes I understand that good basic written English is important but c'mon, it is not "Everything".
Paul M, thanks for the correction on the 2391.
Cheers
Si.
But look at your reply compared to the origional post, i'm no Shakespeare
either, but come on, he is either pi$$ed or someone is taking the pi$$ surely?.
 
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jim_uk85

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I understand what this guy is asking, but really....if he is stuggling for money then going back to sparking isn't going to help. He'll need to take a small loan out just to become an NICEIC domestic installer, buy suitable test equipment etc.

I am a young electrician (qualified for 2 years) struggling to make ends meet. No offence intended but just stick to your course as it will obviously be beneficial in the long run. However stop writing out dodgy test certificates to unsuspecting customers and let the likes of myself, who have trained and qualified do the work instead.

Sorry about the rant, it's been a bad day!
 
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sivoodoo

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Do people write out dodgy test certificates? jesus!
I thought you would have to put some registration number down that the customer or building services would be able to check??
How the hell do they get away with it?
 
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jim_uk85

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C'mon man, get in the real world. Or are you being sarcastic, hard to understand. Anyway, just trying to let the guy know, it's not jus a matter of learning how to complete a form or two. Can you agree with that?!
 
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sivoodoo

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Absolutely agree, yes. I was been a little sarcastic, though it sadens me to think some ----s are signing dodgy certs and could be putting peoples lives at risk, all this stupid legislation does nothing to protect the customer at the end of the day, I know as I have been heavily involved in heath and safety for years, the **** ive seen is unbelievable.
 
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