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I'm starting to use crimps and ferrules more and more and I think I need to invest in a good kit. It's a mindfield. Been on RS and some of the good kits are massively expensive.

What's everyone else using? Best to buy the bits and crimper separately and buikd your own box or buy a set?

I have lots of bits but they are all varied types and qualities (Xmas presents from relatives so probably cheapest available from Amazon/eBay)
 

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Did my 18th edition update last week and during one of the more general discussions, we were told to C2 crimps on solid conductors unless they were done with the type of crimper that make the indents ie unless they were done with a crimper and crimps designed specifically for solid conductors
 
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So what's the difference between french french and German?

What's the difference in crimpers for solid and stranded?
 

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I'm starting to use crimps and ferrules more and more and I think I need to invest in a good kit. It's a mindfield. Been on RS and some of the good kits are massively expensive.

What's everyone else using? Best to buy the bits and crimper separately and buikd your own box or buy a set?

I have lots of bits but they are all varied types and qualities (Xmas presents from relatives so probably cheapest available from Amazon/eBay)
This is the crimping tool that I use )for 0.5mm - 6mm cable) https://uk.farnell.com/ck-tools/430021/crimping-plier-ratchet/dp/1283217?CMP=KNC-GUK-GEN-SHOPPING-1283217&CAGPSPN=pla&gross_price=true&CAWELAID=120173390000251991&CATCI=pla-299908740651&CAAGID=14406255429
I find it very good. I used a friends cheaper crimping tool and I could pull the crimps apart. With my CK crimping tool I tested it in the shed by holding the crimped cable in a vice and pulling as hard as I could and it didn't budge. I also left the cable for a few months and tried again... with the 1mm joints I could 'sometimes' (1 out of 3) pull them apart by using most of my body weight whilst pulling but the 2.5mm and 6mm didn't break.

It did make a big difference if the crimping joint was not done properly. I.e having the crimp in the correct position in the crimping tool (end of the crimp flush with the tool for 1mm and 2.5mm crimps and the crimp slightly inside the tool for 6mm crimps) and also having both sides of the crimp done at the same level, i.e a flat crimp rather than at right angles.

I have also bought a hex crimping tool for 6mm - 50mm joins. I use this for any (rare) 6mm crimps as I think it's better than even a good quality indent crimp.
 

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The difference between the two schemes is the colours used to identify size. The reality is though as far as I'm aware, most sizes are available in the various colours, but the scheme's make it easy to identify size.
 
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I think the colours are handy if you don't keep them stored by size.

The last lot of 0.75mm I bought we blue.

They are dead handy things to have.

And if you have knipex installation pliers, they'll do all the sizes up to 2.5mm
 
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The difference between the two schemes is the colours used to identify size. The reality is though as far as I'm aware, most sizes are available in the various colours, but the scheme's make it easy to identify size.
So it's best to pick a scheme and get used to it?
 
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I think the colours are handy if you don't keep them stored by size.

The last lot of 0.75mm I bought we blue.

They are dead handy things to have.

And if you have knipex installation pliers, they'll do all the sizes up to 2.5mm
I do have those pliers. The crimp on them relies on your own judgment on crimping tight enough?
 

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So it's best to pick a scheme and get used to it?
I sort them by size in an organizer so I don't care about schemes, I just but what my wholesaler had.

Common sizes. 0.75mm for lighting, 1.5mm for flexes in plugs, 4mm, 10mm and 16mm for tidying up the end of earth's and the stranded cpc in 10mm cables.

2.5mm if you use a lot of 2.5mm SWA
 

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thought ferrules were only used for for fine stranded, not general 7 strand conductors. however, can't see a problem using them for 7 strand.
 

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The difference between the two schemes is the colours used to identify size. The reality is though as far as I'm aware, most sizes are available in the various colours, but the scheme's make it easy to identify size.
Any chance you could delete 2 of the identical posts above by myself SC? Don't know what happened there! :confused:
 
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I sort them by size in an organizer so I don't care about schemes, I just but what my wholesaler had.

Common sizes. 0.75mm for lighting, 1.5mm for flexes in plugs, 4mm, 10mm and 16mm for tidying up the end of earth's and the stranded cpc in 10mm cables.

2.5mm if you use a lot of 2.5mm SWA
Is that just based on visually looking at them to determine the size?
 
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I think I may try and sort all mine out. I have loads of crimps and ferrules, different colour arrangements. Have 2 crimpers and a hex one for ferrules
 
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This is what I have. It seems it's a mixture of different colour variations.

I think I may get a container with more compartments and arrange them in a easier format.

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I have a separate box for ring crimps and copper lug crimps that box earlier is for my controls work mainly with cy cables and flexes I've also got my numbers in there.
 
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Just ordered a raaco carrylite 55 case. Lots of compartments so I can sort it all out logically
 
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So my new container turned up. Sorted all the bits out into size and types. Ferrules seem to be a mixture of colour schemes. The big blues seem to be a colour that doesn't confirm to the German or french colours. Looks like 6mm

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That kit has the exact colour scheme mine do. Any ideas what colour scheme it is?

I want to label the containers so I know what sizes the ferrules refer too
 

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