UK Help understand the EICR please

[Bok328]

Is it possible just to add a new RCD in the consumer unit? Or is it easier just to replace the whole consumer unit? Thanks

 

[littlespark]

It’s possible that you do nothing with it all, but get a second opinion.

If you go with a replacement…. You get everything rcd protected, you get the SPD, and you get a metal CU…. Which could all likely be flagged up (even as a C3) on any future EICR if you don’t change it now.

Getting it changed completely would also give you an EIC for the work, which could negate the need for another EICR.

 

[plugsandsparks]

Its possible, as suggested earlier. Dual RCD boards were around during that period although there was a change when 17th came out. My first thought was that it was a dual RCD board and someone had converted it to single RCD, hence the large hole.
Its a ---- up between a quick fix with a relatively expensive RCD, vs, nice new shiny CU, either way you will need to find an electrician to do it so its them you have to discuss this with

 

[richy3333]

Don't think they even flagged the plastic CU as a C3, which it should have been.

Not sure I am missing something. Why should the CU be a C3? Is the CU located under a wooden staircase or in a position where it is in the sole means of escape in the event of a fire?

 

[brianmoooore]

Not sure I am missing something. Why should the CU be a C3? Is the CU located under a wooden staircase or in a position where it is in the sole means of escape in the event of a fire?

Simply because it does not conform to the current regulations. C3 means "improvement recommended", and since the powers that be have seen fit to change the requirement for the casing of a CU to (in effect) steel, it would seem likely that they consider it an "improvement".

 

[richy3333]

Simply because it does not conform to the current regulations. C3 means "improvement recommended", and since the powers that be have seen fit to change the requirement for the casing of a CU to (in effect) steel, it would seem likely that they consider it an "improvement".

Neither BPG4 (industry accepted) nor NAPIT guide (Not totally Industry accepted) recommend a code C3 simply if it's just because the CU is plastic. There has to something else which is and issue, combined with it being plastic to command a coding.

 

[westward10]

4.4 of the Inspection Schedule asks the question and specifies the Regulation applicable to consumer units so to ignore it would be negligent regardless of what these Guides imply.

 

[UNG]

It doesn't shock me that someone has apparently QSd that and left all the errors in.

I doubt many proof read what is noted ticked or otherwise written, I do wonder if some of these companies use a standard template at times due to the stupid and basic errors that consistantly appear or is it just a lack of knowledge and training

You would hope the QS had their back.

The QS can't have even looked at this and just signed it.

The QS there needs to be reminded of their responsibilities and the legal ramifications.

Court case a few years ago Spark got off but QS who signed off the work got it in the neck.

If you look at numbers if you have a company with 10 operatives doing 2 EICR's a day 5 days a week the QS does not and will not have the time to check them all
It is like the NICEIC and NAPIT annual assessments in a large company how many operatives are assessed as being competent to carry out EICR's yet the company will be signed off as competent by the CPS having assessed the QS

5.11 Cables concealed under floors, above ceilings or in walls/partitions, adequately protected against damage (see Section 4. Extent and Limitations) (522.6.204) Pass
yeah what is the spark pass that ,what is he superman ,should be N/V .

Could it be that when you are doing 4 - 5 EICR's a day you don't have the time to read what you are passing or ticking or are you using pre filled reports with minimal or limited info added for each site

 

[littlespark]

I always start with a completely blank EICR. No pre-filled values or tickboxes.

I have to type something on, even if it’s “N/A” or a dash.