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#### telectrix

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went into local fuel robbers this morning, plan was to add enough diesel for the day. pump came up at £15.03. got in the horrendous queue, as only 1 till open. finally got there, gave him a £20 note and a 5p. the cretin had to use a calculator to work out the change. meanwhile 6 queuing behind me had to wait an extra 5 minutes while he got his phone out.i reallly do despair of the younger generation.

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#### Pete999

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went into local fuel robbers this morning, plan was to add enough diesel for the day. pump came up at £15.03. got in the horrendous queue, as only 1 till open. finally got there, gave him a £20 note and a 5p. the cretin had to use a calculator to work out the change. meanwhile 6 queuing behind me had to wait an extra 5 minutes while he got his phone out.i reallly do despair of the younger generation.
Blame the Thatch Lady, I do for most things having shook her hand once would have better if it was her neck.

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#### Squid

Blame the Thatch Lady, I do for most things having shook her hand once would have better if it was her neck.
She was a fantastic person.

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#### Squid

went into local fuel robbers this morning, plan was to add enough diesel for the day. pump came up at £15.03. got in the horrendous queue, as only 1 till open. finally got there, gave him a £20 note and a 5p. the cretin had to use a calculator to work out the change. meanwhile 6 queuing behind me had to wait an extra 5 minutes while he got his phone out.i reallly do despair of the younger generation.
Why not just stick £20's worth of fuel in it?

#### telectrix

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Why not just stick £20's worth of fuel in it?
needed the change for a beer on way home. get with it. .

#### Pete999

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went into local fuel robbers this morning, plan was to add enough diesel for the day. pump came up at £15.03. got in the horrendous queue, as only 1 till open. finally got there, gave him a £20 note and a 5p. the cretin had to use a calculator to work out the change. meanwhile 6 queuing behind me had to wait an extra 5 minutes while he got his phone out.i reallly do despair of the younger generation.
Just makes you wonder how they would get on with the pre decimal era? can you imagine?

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#### Squid

needed the change for a beer on way home. get with it. .
Thats what the other £20 is for.

#### Rpa07

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needed the change for a beer on way home. get with it. .
Beer was £5.02
He has a very neat life does Telectrix OCD - sorry that’s @Dave OCD!
My mistake - sup up Tel, yer tea’s on the table - and if youre lucky it’ll have ale in it as well!

#### Dave OCD

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I'd have stopped the display bang on £15. Precision.

#### telectrix

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I'd have stopped the display bang on £15. Precision.
i normally try to stop it on a round no. but with the price of fuel these days a 0.01 second delay clocks up a few shillings,

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i normally try to stop it on a round no. but with the price of fuel these days a 0.01 second delay clocks up a few shillings,
Shillings?

Would that be a 12p or a 5p shilling?

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#### NDG Elecs

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I'd have stopped the display bang on £15. Precision.
I always try and stop on 44.44 or 55.55 etc. It makes the accounts that tiny bit easier to do!!

At my kids swimming lessons they were getting their badges. The young un who took the money got her phone out to work out 2.80 + 2.80.... I despaired too at the time..

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It’s not all the youth I promise,I have 2 thirteen year olds who have been doing hexadecimal calculations......and laugh at me if I offer any help!....google it!

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#### Squid

It’s not all the youth I promise,I have 2 thirteen year olds who have been doing hexadecimal calculations......and laugh at me if I offer any help!....google it!
That will come in handy whilst working at the checkouts in Tesco's.......

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That will come in handy whilst working at the checkouts in Tesco's.......
Hope not....not at £12k a year fees each...

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#### Squid

Hope not....not at £12k a year fees each...
Ahhhh okay, they will be smoking dope and living in a squat in Brixton going to left wing demonstrations then.

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Ahhhh okay, they will be smoking dope and living in a squat in Brixton going the left wing demonstrations then.
London! Pfft! We don’t go in for all that multicultural nonsense down here!

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#### Squid

Ah Portsmouth where sisters marry their brothers......... ;o))))

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Ah Portsmouth where sisters marry their brothers......... ;o))))
And we all say hello in english....

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Clearly you have have something against her... but putting that aside... can you explain how you blame Thatcher for the poor arithmetic of someone who was probably born a decade after she left office ???

It was famously Blair who said his top 3 priorities were "Education, education and education !" and then proceeded to dumb down the education system to make it look like things were improving !!

Maybe you can blame your poor knowledge of history on her too ?

#### Zerax

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went into local fuel robbers this morning, plan was to add enough diesel for the day. pump came up at £15.03. got in the horrendous queue, as only 1 till open. finally got there, gave him a £20 note and a 5p. the cretin had to use a calculator to work out the change. meanwhile 6 queuing behind me had to wait an extra 5 minutes while he got his phone out.i reallly do despair of the younger generation.
If you want to really confuse them... if it's say £9.70 I sometimes give them the odd 20p... I reckon 9 times out of 10, they immediately give you back the 20p !

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Clearly you have have something against her... but putting that aside... can you explain how you blame Thatcher for the poor arithmetic of someone who was probably born a decade after she left office ???

It was famously Blair who said his top 3 priorities were "Education, education and education !" and then proceeded to dumb down the education system to make it look like things were improving !!

Maybe you can blame your poor knowledge of history on her too ?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion,and some are an era thing...

It is a human trait,to round a collection of problems and woes,in one,"easy to hate" package...when we really know,the truth is always much more convoluted

Personally,i feel that the bulk of the eighties problems,can be firmly placed on the shoulders of Michael Barrymore....

#### NDG Elecs

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It’s not all the youth I promise,I have 2 thirteen year olds who have been doing hexadecimal calculations......and laugh at me if I offer any help!....google it!
Yeah ok Egg I agree, but I bet they can't do an adiabatic !!

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#### Squid

Yeah ok Egg I agree, but I bet they can't do an adiabatic !!
Throw in enthalpy just to confuse them a tad more.

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#### Squid

And we all say hello in english....
"Oi see you next Tuesday" is not "Hello".............

#### telectrix

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Throw in enthalpy just to confuse them a tad more.

#### Zerax

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Throw in enthalpy just to confuse them a tad more.
Reading that word... 'enthalpy', took me straight back to my thermo class over 30 years ago... haven't heard it since then.

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"Oi see you next Tuesday" is not "Hello".............
Mind you there’s quite a few of them foreign types about this week down here....bloody yanks everywhere...

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#### Squid

Mind you there’s quite a few of them foreign types about this week down here....bloody yanks everywhere...
You should be nice to them, for the sacrifices they gave.

There is a nice article about a Grom class Polish warship helping defend the Isle of Wight during a German bombing run during WWII.

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You should be nice to them, for the sacrifices they gave.

There is a nice article about a Grom class Polish warship helping defend the Isle of Wight during a German bombing run during WWII.
All in jest @SWD I promise, nothing but the utmost respect to all who served I assure you

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If you want to really confuse them... if it's say £9.70 I sometimes give them the odd 20p... I reckon 9 times out of 10, they immediately give you back the 20p !
Not necessarily confused Zerax.
You've paid £10.20, so 50p change. If I was on the till, you'd get what I wanted to get rid of, normally smaller change. So more than likely 20s and 10s while I hold on to 50s. Unless you specifically asked for a 50p.

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#### Squid

Not necessarily confused Zerax.
You've paid £10.20, so 50p change. If I was on the till, you'd get what I wanted to get rid of, normally smaller change. So more than likely 20s and 10s while I hold on to 50s. Unless you specifically asked for a 50p.
You work as a cashier in a shop?

Shocked........ or is it at an electrical wholesalers..... ;o)))))

#### andyb

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You work as a cashier in a shop?

Shocked........ or is it at an electrical wholesalers..... ;o)))))
I work 50 hours a week as an electrician, so obviously I have to supplement my wages with other work.

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Why pay for fuel with cash? Use a card and any penny over nonsense is a non-issue.

#### Edtwozeronine

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It’s not all the youth I promise,I have 2 thirteen year olds who have been doing hexadecimal calculations......and laugh at me if I offer any help!....google it!
I used to use hex for pitch bending notes on music sequencing software in the Amiga days.

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#### Squid

Why pay for fuel with cash? Use a card and any penny over nonsense is a non-issue.
The tax man can trace card payments, the scoundrels of the world use cash........

#### Intoelectrics

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i normally try to stop it on a round no. but with the price of fuel these days a 0.01 second delay clocks up a few shillings,
I still try and stop it on a round figure even when I'm paying by card. I think its just my OCD though.

#### telectrix

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I still try and stop it on a round figure even when I'm paying by card. I think its just my OCD though.
i do the same .trouble is the price of fuel, just a teaspoonful clocks up a penny or 3.

#### Intoelectrics

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Why pay for fuel with cash? Use a card and any penny over nonsense is a non-issue.
Ah.. but you see I use it as a challenge to test out my reactions. If I miss the first rounded figure then I try and stop it at the next. I've often been at a pump stop starting, anyone watching must think I'm a proper nut job, they'd be correct of course

#### telectrix

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you'd be buggered then when the tank was brim full at £89.95 then.

#### Intoelectrics

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My father in his 80's still drives around in an old van..bless. He is still quite a competent driver considering. Though these days he often puts petrol in rather than diesel, he also drives all round town finding the cheapest rate but again miss reads the sign and thinks he's found somewhere with really cheap diesel only to realise too late that it was in fact unleaded he had seen.

#### Intoelectrics

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you'd be buggered then when the tank was brim full at £89.95 then.
That just made me chuckle cause not so long ago i filled up to the brim and it finished on an uneven value, so I kept edging the nozzle out until I got to a rounded value, at which point I noticed it overflowing onto the floor

#### telectrix

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this is where Ford (and maybe others) have got wize. my lady's Ford diesel has a clever fuel filler that a petrol nozzle won't fit in.

#### DPG

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As a biker I would ask anyone (especially truck drivers) NOT TO BRIM DIESEL WHEN FILLING UP.

#### Intoelectrics

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As a biker I would ask anyone (especially truck drivers) NOT TO BRIM DIESEL WHEN FILLING UP.
I do apologise, I'm not normally that careless but I took my eye off what I was doing. to be totally truthful I got distracted by the nice lady filling up next to me . I'm a biker myself so i can appreciate your concern! Diesel & oil a biker's nightmare!!

#### telectrix

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I do apologise, I'm not normally that careless but I took my eye off what I was doing. to be totally truthful I got distracted by the nice lady filling up next to me . I'm a biker myself so i can appreciate your concern! Diesel & oil a biker's nightmare!!
fun watching them wobble though. ,

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#### Squid

fun watching them wobble though. ,
Not funny when they come off though......

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#### Silly Sausage

Just makes you wonder how they would get on with the pre decimal era? can you imagine?
It's only a couple of years ago (59 now) I sussed out why we had to learn our 12 times tables at primary school

#### NDG Elecs

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Throw in enthalpy just to confuse them a tad more.
NO NO NO SWD! That word reminds me of hideous chemistry lectures at uni. It made me go all shivery!!

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#### Squid

NO NO NO SWD! That word reminds me of hideous chemistry lectures at uni. It made me go all shivery!!
You must have failed in life, you went to uni and ended up as a sparks? ;o))))

#### Edtwozeronine

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You must have failed in life, you went to uni and ended up as a sparks? ;o))))
Surely it depends what branch of sparky and what industry.

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#### Squid

Surely it depends what branch of sparky and what industry.
Hopefully you didn't end up at Screwfix.......

#### ipf

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You must have failed in life, you went to uni and ended up as a sparks? ;o))))
May have just changed courses...who knows, at uni, they may have been offering a 5 week course in 5 days...

#### NDG Elecs

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You must have failed in life, you went to uni and ended up as a sparks? ;o))))
Yes and no is the honest answer there!! I mainly partied and had far to much fun at uni to be honest! Glad I did it though (env.science) but am also glad I retrained and am self employed now. Don't think I could go back to the hum drum of employment again.

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... plan was to add enough diesel for the day. pump came up at £15.03
Anyone else remember the Not the Nine O'Clock News sketch with the "nobble" button on the cashiers panel ? Sorry, can't find a video offhand.

#### littlespark

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You must have failed in life, you went to uni and ended up as a sparks? ;o))))
Guess I’m another failure then.

I use the diesel pumps that have a 5, 10 or 20 button on them and they stop at whatever value you set. (Ie, press 20 twice then 10, it stops at £50)
Sainsbury’s I think

Actually, I don’t. I just fill until full.

It used to be easier to stop dead on a tenner or whatever. When the price was less than a quid a litre, the value would go up slower than it does these days.

#### telectrix

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i never fill mine. why carry all that extra weight? 15 gallons weighs as much as an extra passenger.

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#### Squid

i never fill mine. why carry all that extra weight? 15 gallons weighs as much as an extra passenger.
You carry a child in your van?

999, ring ring, I like to report an abduction.......... ;o)))))

#### MarkRibbands

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Ha! if you think that's bad, try Thailand
I worked in Asia for eight years and once bought ten fasteners at 10 Baht each from a small shop. I was bemused to see the cashier get out the calculator, presumably to multiply ten by ten.
I overestimated her. The actual calculation done was 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10. I'm not making this up. I so wanted her to mis-key and charge me 90 Baht.
Yes, and I too grew up doing, in primary school, stuff like a shopper buys five apples at 7d each, how much change from a ten bob note? Then divide £122 7s & 8d between seven people, giving your answer to the nearest grain. Or something like that.

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Trying to get a £5 note in you change seems to fail these days ...
(simultaneously counting -up and down ,too much for some)

#### pirate

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If a Mars bar is 40p, how many can you get for £1?
Kids, reach for those calculators...
2 and1/2 Mars bars!
Really?

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If a Mars bar is 40p, how many can you get for £1?
Kids, reach for those calculators...
2 and1/2 Mars bars!
Really?
3 or 4 if the CCTV in the shop isn't up to much.

#### telectrix

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no self-respecting Scouser would nick a couple of Mars Bars. He'd get the lot and then rob the till and ATM.

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John is filling a 100 gallon tank, using a 2 gallon bucket. He fills the bucket from a tap which takes 30 seconds, then he climbs the ladder and pours the bucket of water into the tank, which takes another 30 seconds for the climb and pour.
Q1: How long will it take John to fill the tank?
Q2: If Bob is hiding behind the tank and has opened the drain tap, and water is leaking out at the rate of 1 pint every 15 seconds, how long will it take John to fill the tank?
Q3: How long will it take John to fill the tank if he discovers Bob and spends 5 minutes beating the crap out of him, when the tank is half-full and the drain is still running until John has despatched Bob and turned it off?
Q4: How much time would John save if he starts from scratch, gets rid of Bob, shuts the drain tap and attaches a hose from the tap to the tank, with a flow rate of 15 litres per minute?
Q5: How bored is Pirate today?

#### Dan

It’s not all the youth I promise,I have 2 thirteen year olds who have been doing hexadecimal calculations......and laugh at me if I offer any help!....google it!

A hex calculator. It's used in computing code a lot. Not that I'm clued up on it, it's more for breaking down long sums to take less computing power for the same outcome. AI uses a load of it. Hence eventually beating the world's master at the world's hardest game. The Chinese game of 'go'.

World's best Go player flummoxed by Google’s ‘godlike’ AlphaGo AI

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#### littlespark

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I still remember binary, hexademical and octan(?) counting back in high school.

My daughter downloaded a challenge world for Minecraft and a clue was a binary sum.
Had to explain to her how to do it.

#### pirate

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Binary?
Ah, there's 10 types of people in the world...those who understand binary, and those who don't
so my dad Blackbeard told me...
he worked in 8's though...
pieces of 8

#### telectrix

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shakespeare worked in binary.... to be or not to be.

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Octal, not octan.

#### telectrix

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A hex calculator. It's used in computing code a lot. Not that I'm clued up on it, it's more for breaking down long sums to take less computing power for the same outcome. AI uses a load of it. Hence eventually beating the world's master at the world's hardest game. The Chinese game of 'go'.

World's best Go player flummoxed by Google’s ‘godlike’ AlphaGo AI

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#### The Ghost

Tuppence, Ha'pence Threepence, sixpence, that was the old way to call it pence even though in accounting it was d. for denares/denarius

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Tuppence, Ha'pence Threepence, sixpence, that was the old way to call it pence even though in accounting it was d. for denares/denarius
Ha'p'ny, thre'p'ny bit and a tanner spring more to mind......giving you elevenpence ha'p'ny collectively...... if you include the two pennies for the bus fare.

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Octal, not octan.
Haha. Thanks DPG. I knew I wasn’t quite right there.
Octan is the energy company in the Lego movie

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#### Squid

Ha! if you think that's bad, try Thailand
I worked in Asia for eight years and once bought ten fasteners at 10 Baht each from a small shop. I was bemused to see the cashier get out the calculator, presumably to multiply ten by ten.
I overestimated her. The actual calculation done was 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10. I'm not making this up. I so wanted her to mis-key and charge me 90 Baht.
Yes, and I too grew up doing, in primary school, stuff like a shopper buys five apples at 7d each, how much change from a ten bob note? Then divide £122 7s & 8d between seven people, giving your answer to the nearest grain. Or something like that.

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Tuppence, Ha'pence Threepence, sixpence, that was the old way to call it pence even though in accounting it was d. for denares/denarius
Was always the L s d ..bit that caught my eye , but I'm no politician!

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