am2 before nvq expired

[daza18]

Hi question whats my best route
ive just done the am2 and past
my nvq has expired as i took a while before completing the am2
i have level 2 and 3 and 18th and the am2

what's the difference between the eal and city guilds route
i know i don't have to do the am2e extra bit

assessor built im after

 

[westward10]

What does "assessor built im after" mean?

 

[Timbo]

I ran out of breath before the end of that.

 

[Mike Johnson]

How does an NVQ expire?

 

[westward10]

How does an NVQ expire?

This crossed my mind as well.

 

[72-van]

HI All Think nvq expires means that the op has come to the end of the period (1 year i think) from the date of sign up after which the op either re- pays entirely ( starts again form scratch) or tries to extend on a month by month paid basis (fees payable).
Assessor built i believe is where the assessor write up the bulk of the description for the photographs that the op has taken.
Assessor built has higher fees involved .
i think the Am2 has an expiration period from the date of sitting till the date it can be used as part of the nvq.
BUT i might be wrong
cheers

 

[lozarus]

HI All Think nvq expires means that the op has come to the end of the period (1 year i think) from the date of sign up after which the op either re- pays entirely ( starts again form scratch) or tries to extend on a month by month paid basis (fees payable).
Assessor built i believe is where the assessor write up the bulk of the description for the photographs that the op has taken.
Assessor built has higher fees involved .
i think the Am2 has an expiration period from the date of sitting till the date it can be used as part of the nvq.
BUT i might be wrong
cheers

I wasn't aware of any time limit between doing NVW and sitting the AM2?

 

[Mike Johnson]

I wasn't aware that the AM2 would form part of any NVQ?

 

[nicebutdim]

I wasn't aware that the AM2 would form part of any NVQ?

It doesn't, but you can't sit the AM2 without first attaining the required NVQ.

 

[Mike Johnson]

i think the Am2 has an expiration period from the date of sitting till the date it can be used as part of the nvq.
BUT i might be wrong
cheers

NVQ's are stand alone qualifications and are not dependant on anything else, or need anything else to part of them.

 

[Mike Johnson]

It doesn't, but you can't sit the AM2 without first attaining the required NVQ.

I don't think thats quite right either, I think you only have to have some work experience as an electrician to take the AM2.

 

[Penguin]

Hi question whats my best route
ive just done the am2 and past
my nvq has expired as i took a while before completing the am2
i have level 2 and 3 and 18th and the am2

what's the difference between the eal and city guilds route
i know i don't have to do the am2e extra bit

assessor built im after

How long has your NVQ expired?
And we’re your Levels 2&3 with EAL or C&Gs.?
Also did you do a fast track level 3, or the 42month (3/half year) apprentice [one day a week college] version.?

 

[nicebutdim]

I don't think thats quite right either, I think you only have to have some work experience as an electrician to take the AM2.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks, none of the three versions of AM2 assessment can be booked without proof of NVQ being attained through one of the accepted training routes.

AM2 is not a stand alone qualification. NET are very clear about this.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Don't wish to start an argument NBD, but this document does not mention the requirement for an NVQ to book an assessment for AM2E:

https://www.netservices.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NET-AM2E-Full-Candidate-Checklist-0522-WE2.pdf

IMO the problem with all of this is the lack of a professional body or legislation to administer all of the made up organisations purporting to be a definitive organisation to obtain the status of a qualified electrician, the only organisation that comes anywhere near close is the City and Guilds, the statement "Recognised Training Provider" is not defined and just seems to exist to ride on the back of any other organisation so they may perpetuate each other, who is this body that "Recognises" these training providers, they certainly aren't Government recognised, just recognised by each other.

 

[nicebutdim]

Don't wish to start an argument NBD, but this document does not mention the requirement for an NVQ to book an assessment for AM2E:

https://www.netservices.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/NET-AM2E-Full-Candidate-Checklist-0522-WE2.pdf

Other documents are available and all NET registered test centres are clear about the requirement of relevant level 3 qualification.

If you can't book an AM2 without proof of that qualification I think it's fair to state the qualification is mandatory.

 

[nicebutdim]

Compare and contrast:

Books and courses for an aspiring electrician? - in - Electrician Courses : Electrical Quals

, Books and courses for an aspiring electrician?, Electrician Courses : Electrical Quals, ElectriciansForums.net Est.2006 | Free Electrical Advice Forum and page_number.

www.electriciansforums.net

 

[daza18]

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks, none of the three versions of AM2 assessment can be booked without proof of NVQ being attained through one of the accepted training routes.

AM2 is not a stand alone qualification. NET are very clear about this.

right i done proper collage 1 day a week level 2 and 3 2.5 years,
i started the eal nvq level 2 2019 quicksteps ( covid time)
went for the am2 2022 passed half harder than i thought/ i decided to give up personal reasons a lot going on
went back nov 2023 started to pass the am2 come jan 2024 passed the am2
as i started the am2 at the end of the nvq i could still do it as 2 years for the am2 to be done

thats the issue the nvq expired and it was the older one before they changed it
The am2 was booked when i was doing the nvq

 

[yung_kio]

Compare and contrast:

Books and courses for an aspiring electrician? - in - Electrician Courses : Electrical Quals

, Books and courses for an aspiring electrician?, Electrician Courses : Electrical Quals, ElectriciansForums.net Est.2006 | Free Electrical Advice Forum and page_number.

www.electriciansforums.net

What do you mean

 

[daza18]

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks, none of the three versions of AM2 assessment can be booked without proof of NVQ being attained through one of the accepted training routes.

AM2 is not a stand alone qualification. NET are very clear about this.

hi i started the am2 at the end of the older nvq eal
am2 2 years to do
i just passed the am2 with one month to spare expire
thats why the nvq has expired was finshed

 

[nicebutdim]

What do you mean

Nothing of consequence here as I posted in the wrong thread.

 

[yung_kio]

Nothing of consequence here as I posted in the wrong thread.

Oh.

Do you got any books you recommend I read as a newbie?

 

[nicebutdim]

Oh.

Do you got any books you recommend I read as a newbie?

You could pick up a copy of the on site guide as it isn't quite as dry as BS7671.

I would recommend John Ward's youtube channel for a good grounding in the basics (and much more).

 

[Mike Johnson]

Best on the market: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Inspection-Certification-Electrical-Installations/dp/1138613320

On site guide by "Unite the Union", easier to understand than all the others.

An NVQ does not expire, you either have one or you don't.

 

[daza18]

your getting this wrong
i had 2 months left on a extension on the nvq only had a bit to go to finish i didnt finish it
i went for the am2 passed half . found it to hard while i was still doing the nvq
1.5 years later i decided to have another go at the am2 and i passed with 2 months left out of the 2 years to do it
i had 2 years to do resits on the am2

so basically i have to do the newer nvqs which seem a pain in the arse

so yes once you start the am2 you have 2 years to complete it
i now have the certif for the am2

 

[nicebutdim]

Odd that you were able to undertake the AM2 without first achieving one of the qualifications required for entry, but it seems you managed to do so.

I guess if you have used up all available course extensions the provider would require you to start again. Unfortunate, but that's how it goes. No one here will be able to change the terms and conditions of a contract between you and the training provider.

No idea how we all managed to misunderstand the issue - I guess people just don't pay attention to detail these days.