can this machine produce more energy than is needed to keep it running?

[justcurioustwo]

I came up with an idea that could possibly produce more useful energy than is required to keep the system running & no it is not a perpetual motion machine.

The output is electric and that is why I am introducing this idea here.

SeaPower description

Attached is a diagram that details a new energy generating power source using the expanding rise of air underwater as a lifting force.

This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat. A cubic foot of air under water has a lifting force of 67 pounds. A ship/boat that weighs 2,000 pounds must displace (2,000/67)=29.85 cubic feet of water to stay afloat.

In the diagram, there is a vertical row of balloons. The lower balloon or inverted umbrella; is injected with 40,000 cubic feet of air compressed to 15 ATM resulting in a volume of 2,666.66 cubic feet of air.

When the first balloon rises 99 feet to 12 ATM it will expand to 3,333.33 cubic feet

As each balloon rises it will expand from 2,666.66 feet until it reaches the surface with a volume of 40,000 cubic feet.

There are fifteen (15) balloons each tied together in a vertical row.

The combined lifting force of the 15 balloons is 118,428 pounds of continuous lifting force.

In order to maintain this lifting force, the lowest balloon must be injected with 40,000 cubic feet of air compressed to 2,666.66 cubic feet. When it rises a new balloon replaces it in a circular motion, as the diagram attached shows.

Principles to run the machine

[1] an enclosed container (X) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (Y) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container;

[2] connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)

Which is a greater lifting force than (Y)

[3] the energy needed to fill one container is equal to the energy needed to sustain the combined lifting force of the 10 (ten) containers referenced above minus the energy needed to keep it running.

That is why I am here. I need to calculate:

[1] the electrical power of a pulling force of 118,428 foot pounds can produce.

[2] the electric power needed to compress 40,000 cf down to 2,666.666 cubic feet

[3] the speed of the rising balloons

Comments please

 

[telectrix]

no matter how you make it more complex, you are forgetting a basic rule of science..... energy cannot be created or destroyed. it can onlybe changed.and you cannot get out more than you put in. ergo, it cannot work. if it could. Archimedes would have patented it centuries ago.

 

[westward10]

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