I use the long shaft (oo-er) ones but often break the points when they hit stuff. Otherwise good cutters
 
I have the Tough bits & they are Brilliant only my 20mm bit has worn down so far after nearly a week of making Pilot holes in 45-55mm thick plaster in the ceiling. Although I paid nearly 20 quid for my set of 8 but you can find them for about 12 quid
 
I use the long shaft (oo-er) ones but often break the points when they hit stuff. Otherwise good cutters

Like these too. Great when wiring from below along with 114mm holesaw (and DADE). Very easy to gently sharpen on bench grinder (or not so easily file on-site).
 

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