Do I need to bond steel stud partition?

[bleach]

Hi all,

this is a domestic refurb I have looked at but the builder has created a bathroom using steel stud work. This is going to be fully enclosed with plasterboard but I would have to run some cables in it. He used the steel because there was just enough left from a previous job, all other stud walls are timber.
Would you bond it? And what reg number would apply in this instance?
Its tns.

many thanks in advance!!!

 

[gnselectricals]

Wouldn't have thought it would introduce any potential as its probably not extraneous. I would run cables through grommited holes and make sure everything is rcd protected

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Test it as per the guidance note. Your IR tester is your friend....

 

[Engineer54]

Hi all,

this is a domestic refurb I have looked at but the builder has created a bathroom using steel stud work. This is going to be fully enclosed with plasterboard but I would have to run some cables in it. He used the steel because there was just enough left from a previous job, all other stud walls are timber.
Would you bond it? And what reg number would apply in this instance?
Its tns.

many thanks in advance!!!

Not unless you're name is Coburn!!

 

[sam400]

I wouldn't bond it but use bushes and lock rings rather than grommets

 

[PEG]

I would not have thought bonding it necessary,and if you did,selecting a place where bonding on one section,had good continuity to all the others,would not be guaranteed ... especially if the builder was as thrifty with his other materials...like screws :conehead:

 

[ruston]

Not unless you're name is Coburn!!

Rooster hasn't been around for some time lol.

 

[derek]

It is a requirement in Florida I think, part of the building code apparently, after a kitchen fitter screwed through a cable making the stud wall live and another trade got a fatal shock fitting an exhaust pipe from a dryer which was in contact with the stud. I can only assume they hadn't used an RCD or whatever the US name for it is. Personally I'd be inclined to use safe zones, grommets and RCD protection.

 

[Plonker 3]

It is a requirement in Florida I think, part of the building code apparently, after a kitchen fitter screwed through a cable making the stud wall live and another trade got a shock fitting an exhaust pipe from a dryer which was in contact with the stud. I can only assume they hadn't used an RCD or whatever the US name for it is. Personally I'd be inclined to use safe zones, grommets and RCD protection.

You have too anyway with metal stud work.

Unless you meet certain requirements of the BGB.

 

[richy3333]

Not unless you're name is Coburn!!

I thought his name was penile friction injury?

 

[PEG]

It is a requirement in Florida I think, part of the building code apparently, after a kitchen fitter screwed through a cable making the stud wall live and another trade got a fatal shock fitting an exhaust pipe from a dryer which was in contact with the stud. I can only assume they hadn't used an RCD or whatever the US name for it is. Personally I'd be inclined to use safe zones, grommets and RCD protection.

It's a GFCI or Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter,like an RCD,they are best tested by doing a DB swop,with no prior survey....:icon12:

 

[Knobhead]

They do bugger all testing afterwards, never mind before.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Apart from the bang test

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Just re read your 1st post.

fully enclosed.

wouldn't bother them.

Would you go around bonding all the RSJ's in a house before they become fully enclosed?

 

[Knobhead]

Apart from the bang test

So much more fun than all this boring testing malarkey.

All those figures you have to write down knowing full well no one will take a blind bit of notice of them.

 

[uksparks]

The entire upstairs of my house is steel partitions, when I went to hang the TV on the wall it was a slight problem as couldn't find anything to fix it to, I prefer a big chunk of wood and a fat screw.

 

[Geordie Spark]

The entire upstairs of my house is steel partitions, when I went to hang the TV on the wall it was a slight problem as couldn't find anything to fix it to, I prefer a big chunk of wood and a fat screw.

I'm with you there bonny lad .... There's nowt better than a good fat screw!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

I'm sure one or two of you gents will jump all over me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a case a little while ago about a lass getting electrocuted while mopping water off her kitchen floor while holding a pipe connected to her boiler?

If I remember right, a screw fixing the plaster board had pierced the cable making the wall and the pools of water on the floor live and she got zapped up the arm holding the wet cloth and down the other arm holding the pipe.

Wasn't that wall a steel framed job or am I mistaken?

 

[Guest77]

You have too anyway with metal stud work.

Unless you meet certain requirements of the BGB.

Or even the BYB :biggrin:

 

[Leesparkykent]

I'm sure one or two of you gents will jump all over me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a case a little while ago about a lass getting electrocuted while mopping water off her kitchen floor while holding a pipe connected to her boiler?

If I remember right, a screw fixing the plaster board had pierced the cable making the wall and the pools of water on the floor live and she got zapped up the arm holding the wet cloth and down the other arm holding the pipe.

Wasn't that wall a steel framed job or am I mistaken?

Yeah she was trying to turn the stopcock off as boiler was leaking whilst kneeling in the puddle of water. MF stud wall and cable between immersion double pole switch and flex outlet plate had been screwed through clipping line and cpc connecting it to the MF stud. Apparently the mcb had been reset so many times by the electrical contractor the fault current blew part of the screw away and in doing so cleared the cpc and left the stud work live. Awful isn't it and I think one of the blokes involved walked away with a £1000 fine!