Eicr who wants them

[cliffed]

Our Company’s raising the cost of an EICR, basically they don’t want them.
I can see their point too, its the remedial work, it’s such a pain & not that profitable.
How many times have you come away & wondered if you’ve missed something, should of been a complete rewire, & then the remedial work to correct it.
These jobs are so fiddly especially in a domestic rented properties, drives me mad.
Your not going to be 100% on the outcome anyway, I’ve done plenty & to be honest never enjoyed them.

 

[i=p/u]

Aye feel the pain if you work for someone else, and have to do them every day.

 

[James]

It is of course an option to offer eicr reports but not quote for any remedial work.

 

[SJD]

Seems like EICRs are all I'm doing right now, and I'm starting to think the same way. Possibly instead of trying to price each one based on how long I think it will take, I'll move more towards half or whole days.

 

[Dustydazzler]

i Must admit if you can charge a decent hourly / by circuit rate they can be good income spinners. £50-60 per hour of £45 per circuit Is a nice profitable days work ?
quote high on the remedial work so if you get it then it’s good money , if you don’t then you still made a good days money just on the eicr.
the people I don’t get is these £60 eicr crews who rely solely on the plethora of remedials to make a profit out the job...

 

[buzzlightyear]

Seems like EICRs are all I'm doing right now, and I'm starting to think the same way. Possibly instead of trying to price each one based on how long I think it will take, I'll move more towards half or whole days.

You should treat an EICR reamidals work when you can. like a hosipital job and go back to finish them. And make more monies then trying to rush them to finish it off, if the work was done properly they would not have a unsatisfactory result.

 

[cliffed]

Agree & yes there are some cheap rates out there, it’s definitely not a job you can go home feeling Satisfactory, pardon the pun.

 

[westward10]

If it needed a complete rewire your Report should justify this by finding so many issues you essentially write the installation off.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I rather enjoy them, but then again I probably only do 3 or 4 per month so I am not bored with them. Apart from fault finding, when else do you get to just play with the electrics and get paid for it ?.

Saying that, I did two in one day once and I didn't enjoy the second one!

@cliffed , it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't see much of a drop in the demand for your EICR services even though you raise your prices. Sound like people are desperate for them.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I had my gas boiler serviced last month and the BG engineer was in my house less than 30 minutes.
Perhaps EICRs should be more like boiler services, you can't get bored in 30 minutes

 

[richy3333]

I had my gas boiler serviced last month and the BG engineer was in my house less than 30 minutes.
Perhaps EICRs should be more like boiler services, you can't get bored in 30 minutes

spend 25 minutes with me ?

 

[DefyG]

£45 per circuit Is a nice profitable days work ?

We should be so lucky!

 

[Vortigern]

Got spanked off by another electrician for EICR yesterday. Mine was £250 and £175 for two different properties owned by LL. They know an electrician that will do them £50 each. I am not and wont compete/ing with that!

 

[buzzlightyear]

They know an electrician that will do them £50 each.

WOW, they must be looking through a letter box to assess a property.

 

[pc1966]

WOW, they must be looking through a letter box to assess a property.

Nah, it will be the high-tech option of divination using chicken entrails.

 

[Teddy Lop]

Got spanked off by another electrician for EICR yesterday. Mine was £250 and £175 for two different properties owned by LL. They know an electrician that will do them £50 each. I am not and wont compete/ing with that!

Yeah good luck with that.

Having like I guess many of us been quite busy with EICRs recently has drawn my attention to just how widespread really poor workmanship is in this country. I had my "remote assessment" from the niceic the other day and he mentioned the mandatory increase in indemnity cover, ironically I had 500k because I wasn't happy with the 100k standard (but lost it last time I renewed because it was too much effort for the agent (nics own cover)), purely because of the widespread terrible standard of installs I'm meddling with regularly

Looking into moving to oz now... Despite being in my 40s and quite experienced ill have to be an "improver" for a year... Annoying but at least they police the whole industry, not just the ones who choose to comply!

 

[cliffed]

Got spanked off by another electrician for EICR yesterday. Mine was £250 and £175 for two different properties owned by LL. They know an electrician that will do them £50 each. I am not and wont compete/ing with that!

£250 bout the right price, also after all that & waiting for an acceptance of the cost of remedials...you then have 28 days to do the works,I do believe or get a right telling of by those in higher status than you.

 

[cliffed]

Yeah good luck with that.

Having like I guess many of us been quite busy with EICRs recently has drawn my attention to just how widespread really poor workmanship is in this country. I had my "remote assessment" from the niceic the other day and he mentioned the mandatory increase in indemnity cover, ironically I had 500k because I wasn't happy with the 100k standard (but lost it last time I renewed because it was too much effort for the agent (nics own cover)), purely because of the widespread terrible standard of installs I'm meddling with regularly

Looking into moving to oz now... Despite being in my 40s and quite experienced ill have to be an "improver" for a year... Annoying but at least they police the whole industry, not just the ones who choose to comply!

Spot on there poor workmanship throughout our industry especially in the domestic areas.
Bring back Clerk of Works .

 

[Teddy Lop]

Spot on there poor workmanship throughout our industry especially in the domestic areas.
Bring back Clerk of Works .

The problem is more the bogit&leggit brigade.

If you know which end of a hammer to hold the majority of the middle classes will believe you're anything you say, most people really are that clueless and feckless today.

 

[UNG]

WOW, they must be looking through a letter box to assess a property.

That would involve getting out of a warm van

 

[Dave OCD]

I've been doing loads and yes general workmanship standards found are not good ! Getting fed up with EICRs now and thankfully only 7 left for the time being. Does anyone else find some of the places totally cluttered and far from clean ? Even though they know you're coming a lot of the tenants make zero effort to help you access sockets etc ,and you can't even find a clear and clean spot to place anything down. But on the other hand some are good as gold.

 

[SJD]

Does anyone else find some of the places totally cluttered and far from clean ? Even though they know you're coming a lot of the tenants make zero effort to help you access sockets etc ,and you can't even find a clear and clean spot to place anything down. But on the other hand some are good as gold.

Yes, it seems to vary from one extreme to another.

Last week, I had one where the tenants had kindly moved every bit of furniture in front of a socket, etc (without being asked).

Then another with nothing moved, no access to about half the sockets, piles and stashes of junk everywhere, meter cupboard and airing cupboard rammed to bursting, barely room to put down a test bag or tool bag. Often with a comment along the lines "If I'd realised you need access, I'd have moved stuff"!

 

[Teddy Lop]

I've been doing loads and yes general workmanship standards found are not good ! Getting fed up with EICRs now and thankfully only 7 left for the time being. Does anyone else find some of the places totally cluttered and far from clean ? Even though they know you're coming a lot of the tenants make zero effort to help you access sockets etc ,and you can't even find a clear and clean spot to place anything down. But on the other hand some are good as gold.

Found myself working for someone with a few dozen housing association slum lets... Some of them I have to confess I don't even try - if I can get a passable insulation reading to earth its gets a pass with some grumbling in the limitations.

 

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Found myself working for someone with a few dozen housing association slum lets... Some of them I have to confess I don't even try - if I can get a passable insulation reading to earth its gets a pass with some grumbling in the limitations.

That is not good practice, but got to admit I agree. I hate doing them anyway. If it’s a mess I just do what I can and put FI if I don’t think I was able to get to enough of the property to do justice to the report.
I know some will disagree with this but I will not give a satisfactory to an installation I cant test thoroughly enough because the tenants are dirty messy b**tar*s.

 

[Teddy Lop]

That is not good practice, but got to admit I agree. I hate doing them anyway. If it’s a mess I just do what I can and put FI if I don’t think I was able to get to enough of the property to do justice to the report.
I know some will disagree with this but I will not give a satisfactory to an installation I cant test thoroughly enough because the tenants are dirty messy b**tar*s.

I know but if I fail it he'll only ruddy ask me to go back and fix it!

I do try believe me but every now and then you get one that putting the extra effort in would be like trying to teach elocution to a plumber.