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this thread will go on for quite a while (14 WEEKS), to exams... ive nearly read gn3 for the first time and there is a few things i dont fully understand but im sure i will for when the time comes from help from you guys/dudes/punks who know just a little to much.
 
Nice one i=p/u, enjoy it. I loved it but I'm an electrical geek at the best of times. Make sure you get your moneys' worth out of the lecturers!

!st day on ours he read riot act and basically said most of us in room will fail so if anyone wants to cut to the chase leave now!!!

Is that standard?
 
Buy the C&G 2391 exam success book. Well worth the £15 or so quid. It is a massive help for the written exam, with lots of tips for saving time, especially if like me you are not the best artist that ever graced the planet, and can sometimes ramble on a bit when trying to describe in detail something. This book shows you how to cut the crap and save time.

15 weeks is a good period to get to grips with GN3, learn a bit at a time, and you will have no big trouble on this course or the exams.

The biggest cause of failure is lack of revision time, so if you have 15 weeks, you stand more chance than someone who is going to take it the week after.

Cheers............Howard
 
Because it was never designed to be done in 5 days, and in my opinion that does not give you the quality time between each lesson for the evening's content to perculate through the grey matter.

Its 10 odd weeks at night school, cheaper, better for understanding, and the way it was meant to be done!


However I can see that a crash course may be some peoples only option for various reasons. Expect to pay through the nasal cavity
 
what i=p/u can ask the lecturer n all is what the previous months pass rate is/was as C&G have a legal requirement to disclose such info....what the pass rate of the training centre is and what the reasons were for the last months markings fails.....such as for wrong terminology (one that keeps cropping up on this one)..or continuity of ring finals (another one)..or things like applying the rule of thumb to measured values rather than the tabulated values of Zs (my lecturer said that this one kept coming back from C&G HQ n all)....these are just a few examples but my lecturer said there were allsorts....mostly silly stuff n all but they arn`t in the business of careing down at C&G....if it aint right (as per GN3)....you dont get the mark...simple as....
 
aye .. nicely spaced out , got the exam for sucess same time as gn3... cheaper to buy the 2..lol
Buy the C&G 2391 exam success book. Well worth the £15 or so quid. It is a massive help for the written exam, with lots of tips for saving time, especially if like me you are not the best artist that ever graced the planet, and can sometimes ramble on a bit when trying to describe in detail something. This book shows you how to cut the crap and save time.

15 weeks is a good period to get to grips with GN3, learn a bit at a time, and you will have no big trouble on this course or the exams.

The biggest cause of failure is lack of revision time, so if you have 15 weeks, you stand more chance than someone who is going to take it the week after.

Cheers............Howard
 
there is ones floating around this forum somwhere, i have few in a folder on this laptop.. exam sucess has a few and the lecturer give me few sample questions this week.... and he says he will be pumping them out soon as everybody has payed their fees, as he doesnt want to scare them (joke) his..lol
 
I just passed my 2391. The exam itself follows a standard formula. It took me two attempts to get it.

Don't just think memorising GN3 will do it - it'll help, yes, but the buggers that write the questions are - as one would expect - savvy to this theory; and, they compose the questions cryptically to ensure that the examinee has to think.

Not easy.


NB* ETS in Aston Birmingham will definitely get you through though.

They're good.
 
When you do the practice questions from the past papers try to do them under exam conditions - i.e. no books, no notes and just 18 minutes per question! I passed 2391-10 and 2391-20 first time, but on both occasions the 3 hour written exam was just about the quickest 180 minutes I've ever known - and my arm was bloody sore from writing for days afterwards!

As others have said watch your terminology .... make sure you mean earth when you write earth, and don't really mean CPC for example. Its a Ring Final Circuit, not a Ring Main. I'm sure your tutors will do their best to point out the need for accuracy!
 
Get the exam pass book, it basically talks you through it. Tells you exactly how to interpret each question, how long to spend depending upon the format of the question, how to save time, how to abrieviate answers, etc. However, they fall apart after a few weeks. Designed to self destruct so you do not sell it on ebay.

I have one, cost £17, yours for only £8 inc postage!!! But mostly loose leaf now, but clean as a daisy. If fact, I will throw in a few past papers too. Out of the non regs books I bought, it was the only one that was worth it, the rest were a waste of money. GN3 and OSG, they are the course, keep them by the loo or where you read most.

IMHO, know the testing order of every type of circuit backwards, how to safe iso, testing selv, RCD tests, and always remember to remove temporary links when you answer. You will be 60% there. And do the 2382 first as it prepares you for the section of min/max/ip/40ms type of questions, and is easy anyway. Most of all, read the question twice, they are tricky and worded to confuse or mislead, the answer is often easier than it appears. The idea is to force you to think.
 
i did 2391 last March, passed first time. I got past papers from ebay and read GN3 over and over for weeks! terminoligy is key, one wrong word and its a mark against. also, it may help to pay some attention to earth electrode testing, most UK sparks dont do much of this and a massive part of the exam i did was on explaining how to do it, i was lucky that its a test i do a lot working from generators but quite a few failed that day thanks to that one question. hope this helps a little.
 
Hi Crazy.

That exam success book. I'll give i=p/u first go since at it since it's his thread, but if not, let me know. I'll try and drop you a private message on it.

Hi i=p/u. Keep us up to date with your progress! I have CG2395 in March (2391 phased out). It'll be similar.

Justin
 
Justin, no problem. Is the 2395 back on, I heard it was delayed 6 months? Looks like it is basically the 2382, and 2391 rolled into one qualy. And the 2394 is the 2382 and 2392 rolled into one. That said, I heard they may revise the content, hence the delay.
 
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