Sub-main advice

[soulman]

Hi, Went to a job this morning to change a few lights & install an additional socket. This was a building where the owners have decided to rent out half of the building as they are not using it. They have completely sectioned it off, ripped all the electrics out. A 60A fuse from the old half of the building is feeding a meter installed by the electricians, then 6mm T&E feeds the new sub-main. The cpc of the 6mm T&E has been cut out & replaced with a 6mm back to the MET. It has also been completely rewired. M.P.bonding is 6mm. The earthing system is pme, the new half is to be hair dresser's. They are also talking about installing electric heaters!!!
Am i correct in saying even if it a sub-main the bonds should be in 10mm & the sub-main earth should be at least 16mm as it is pme. The fuse is incorrect for 6mm. I cannot understand why they have put in 6mm tails for commercial premises.

 

[telectrix]

sounds like a right bolognaise.

 

[soulman]

This was a approved contractor & when i asked where was the paperwork, it was 3 pages of an EICR.

 

[telectrix]

another half-arsed chancer then. paid his niceic ransom and now clawing it back by cutting corners.

 

[soulman]

Forgot to add consumer has a rcd mainswitch

 

[Octopus]

This was a approved contractor & when i asked where was the paperwork, it was 3 pages of an EICR.

Which 3 in particular?

 

[soulman]

Sorry only 2 pages Page 1 & 3, the other was for smoke detectors.

 

[guest119]

Photos please of certs.

 

[Engineer54]

Hi, Went to a job this morning to change a few lights & install an additional socket. This was a building where the owners have decided to rent out half of the building as they are not using it. They have completely sectioned it off, ripped all the electrics out. A 60A fuse from the old half of the building is feeding a meter installed by the electricians, then 6mm T&E feeds the new sub-main. The cpc of the 6mm T&E has been cut out & replaced with a 6mm back to the MET. It has also been completely rewired. M.P.bonding is 6mm. The earthing system is pme, the new half is to be hair dresser's. They are also talking about installing electric heaters!!!
Am i correct in saying even if it a sub-main the bonds should be in 10mm & the sub-main earth should be at least 16mm as it is pme. The fuse is incorrect for 6mm. I cannot understand why they have put in 6mm tails for commercial premises.

It doesn't comply with the latest Reg's does it, so end of story!!

One can only imagine what the rewire is going to be like?? Remember as soon as you touch this installation, you can become equally responsible, as the installing electrician (if you can call him an electrician). So think before you dive in to this one!! lol!!

 

[Badged01]

"Engineer54" has hit the nail on the head and driven it right the way in. This installation just doesnt comply with the latest regs so leave well alone unless as part of your work you are bringing it upto the regs beforehand, which virtually makes it a rewire!

Be interesting to see the EICR if you can upload a copy ..... I know these northern electicans can be sloppy lol

 

[soulman]

Hi, Guys can you help me out with some reg numbers

cheers