13 way MF junction in ceiling

[goasis]

Hi everyone, client has a light fitting where 12 individual pendants hang in a grid formation, there are no ceiling roses as such, just cover plates where the flex goes through the ceiling, I assume these offer strain relief. So I basically have to create a 13 way maintenance free junction to connect all 12 to the supply. Any thoughts on best way to achieve this? Multiple wagos in an appropriate box?
Cheers

 

[Baddegg]

Wago wiring centre?...

Wago L32 Wiring Centre

Or an extra large wago box but you’ll need the smaller wagos...

 

[goasis]

Wago wiring centre?...

Wago L32 Wiring Centre

Or an extra large wago box but you’ll need the smaller wagos...

Good idea, I've used those before for lighting... Hadn't crossed my mind for this though, cheers!

 

[pc1966]

It might be easier to group it in to 3 sets of 4 lights or similar then daisy-chain those junction boxes. That way each box only has 5 (end) or 6 (middle, fed one) cables entering it.

 

[radiohead]

Bear in mind whatever you use must be manufacturer marked 'MF', the option in post #2 isn't MF.

 

[goasis]

Bear in mind whatever you use must be manufacturer marked 'MF', the option in post #2 isn't MF.

Of course, maybe the wago xl box would be more appropriate, loaded up with the 5 way lever connectors....

 

[snowhead]

If you're attempting to get to 1 box, that assumes that all the flexes will reach to 1 central point, is that the case?

If I was doing it it, I'd either daisy chain around them all individually or group them in 3's or 4's.

 

[goasis]

I think t

If you're attempting to get to 1 box, that assumes that all the flexes will reach to 1 central point, is that the case?

If I was doing it it, I'd either daisy chain around them all individually or group them in 3's or 4's.

I think the flexes come in what ever length the customer specifies, doing it in one place just means less making good in the ceiling afterwards, I've put draw wires through to one location pre plastering, so just one hole will need making good after 2nd fix
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thanks for your ideas, I was thinking wago boxes would be the solution, just wanted to see if anyone else had ideas!! Cheers all!

 

[Andy78]

I'd definitely go for a wagobox XL or XLA depending on which connectors you want to use.

 

[goasis]

I'd definitely go for a wagobox XL or XLA depending on which connectors you want to use.

There's a strange extra accessory you need to use with the xla IF you are also using the 221 lever connectors AND you want MF standards.

 

[Zerax]

What about using the Wago 224 in some way ?

 

[Strima]

If you need to centralise them all it might be worth looking at WAGO DIN rail type connections, but you would have to research which ones are MF.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

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You want one of them in the loft if all the lights are off one switch in a central position. They do dosmaller ones down to 3/4 ways I believe
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just seen he said MF. Couple of Wago XL boxes maybe?

 

[GBDamo]

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You want one of them in the loft if all the lights are off one switch in a central position. They do dosmaller ones down to 3/4 ways I believe
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just seen he said MF. Couple of Wago XL boxes maybe?

Id be trying to convince the customer to have an access hatch in the ceiling and the clik box above

Or

Although not MF I'd have more faith in a glanded adaptable box with din rail connectors, just write MF on it with a sharpie.

 

[ELECNEWT]

Have you thought of the Surewire system?Surewire are pre-wired maintenance free lighting electrical junction boxes that have been designed and developed to be a replacement for single junction boxes, the loop-in ceiling rose system and downlighter junction boxes.