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Well, after 25 years I'm going back on the tools, and to be honest, I can't wait. :)

However I'm looking for some advice. This is my position:-

1. I served a 4 year Indentured Apprentiship sponsored by a local Electrical Contracting Company via the CITB
2. I have my JIB Electrician's Card from all those years ago 16th Edition
3. I hold C&G 236 Part 1 - Electrcial Installation
4. I hold C&G 236 Part 2 - Electrcial Installation
5. I also hold a BTech Diploma in Engineering (Armed Forces)
6. I hold various Mod Skills & Testing certifications
7. I'm looking to do some domestic and maybe small scale commerical stuff in our local village i.e. I wish to become the local sparks for everyone :)
8. I have the tools and transport already
9. I have a Limited Company
10. I am 45 years of age
11. I already have Eng Tech (Engineering Council) & MIET (IEE) professional membership levels

Sooo... what else do I need to do to become "legal", if anything?

Thanks guys. Would be interested in your thoughts and guidance here?
 
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Welcome back to it!

A few things that you may want to look into:

The 17th Edition Wiring Regulations - we are now working to this as from the 1st July 2008. Depending on when you achieved your 16th Edition you could possibly do a short update course?

Electrical work in domestic properties (England & Wales since 2005) now falls under Part P of the Building Regulations under the LABC.

If you want to self certify your own work in a domestic property, then you will need to be able to inspect and test before you can join one of the scheme's listed below. Scheme's requirements are usually the C&G2391 Inspection and Testing qualification, plus the usual 2360, 2330, 2381 , 2382 etc.

As a member of a scheme, they will notify the LABC on your behalf to say that the electrical work carried out at xxxx property complys with Part P of the Building Regulations and was completed by one of their scheme members. You still provide the customer with an electrical certificate. This route is easier and quicker, but of course you have the scheme's fee's to pay and their criteria as a member.

If you did not want to self certify your own work in domestic properties, you can arrange for LABC to inspect your work at different points during the installation (for example first fix etc) and for final Inspection and Test etc, however you have to contact them to notify each job you are doing and arrange for them to do this.

Of course there is a fee which is normally a silly price. I was quoted once for this route £60 to register the job and a further £230 to inspect the work!

I have listed some of the main scheme providers here. They all will expect to vet your qualifications and skills and will expect you to have all the documentation, such as a copy of the 17th Edition Wiring Regulations, On-site Guide, EAWR89 etc.

Correct tools, tester, correct leads, calibration certificates, Insuarances etc.

NICEIC - Welcome to NICEIC, the home of electrical contracting excellence — NICEIC Group

NAPIT - Part P | Electricians | Building Regulations - NAPIT UK

Elecsa - Welcome to ELECSA

BRE - PARTP.CO.UK - The home of Part P

Select - SELECT - Scotland's Electrical Trade Association (Scotland)

I hope this makes some sense and I hope it helps

Warren
 
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Sundance

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WarrenG - This is great advice. Thanks.

Seems like there's more 'red tape' these days.... typical Britain!

Oh well, at least I have the most important bits. So my take on what you're saying is I need to "top up" on the following:-

- Update to 17th Edition (short 4 day course)
- Obtain C&G 2391 certification (short 4 day course + exam)

After completion of the above it seems wise to go for the NICEIC membership scheme to allow the self certification option, which then allows me to then provide the certificate myself. Not sure what the NICEIC fees are yet (probably a rip-off), but I'll look into this later.

Again, thanks for the advice.
 

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WarrenG - This is great advice. Thanks.

Seems like there's more 'red tape' these days.... typical Britain!

Oh well, at least I have the most important bits. So my take on what you're saying is I need to "top up" on the following:-

- Update to 17th Edition (short 4 day course)
- Obtain C&G 2391 certification (short 4 day course + exam)

After completion of the above it seems wise to go for the NICEIC membership scheme to allow the self certification option, which then allows me to then provide the certificate myself. Not sure what the NICEIC fees are yet (probably a rip-off), but I'll look into this later.

Again, thanks for the advice.

Unless you have done the 16th recently you can't do the update, it will be the full 17th 2382-10
 
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