UK Brexit and your business

[Lou]

We don't want to discuss what you voted for and who likes who the best - but for discussing how your think your business could be affected by Brexit then use this thread.

So

How do you think your business will be affected by Brexit? Would it be better to leave or stay? Has your business already been affected?

 

[DG599]

We are launching a business now, so this is particularly interesting for us. Brexit is just taking soo long, that's the main problem. I think the flexible and fast moving businesses will adapt and survive.
Before the campaign £/$ was at 1.5. Now it's at 1.2. So we've been buying things dearer for a few years now.

 

[littlespark]

The way things are going today, the 31st October date will pass, it’ll get delayed again, and if it goes to a second vote, I think it’ll be cancelled.

3 or 4 years of wasted time,

My business, as small as it is will be ok....

I’m more worried in case jimmy krankie gets her way and Scotland goes independent.
I have to drive to England to get cheaper alcohol just now..... will that stop? Will I need my passport, will I need to declare it and prove it’s all for my own consumption?

 

[telectrix]

slightlyofftrack, but what i can't understand is the Irish border thing. wasn't a problem when we were in the EU and they weren't. why is it now?

 

[Lou]

I don't understand that part either! In fact I have given up trying to understand what is going on! Especially after all the votes over the past couple of days!

 

[buzzlightyear]

I don't understand that part either

The EU wants Britain to keep to the terms of the Good Friday Agreement.
One of the terms of the Good Friday Agreement is that there be no hard border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
In order to avoid a hard border, there needs to be no significant economic reason to smuggle goods between the two areas.
This means that the two areas need to have the same tariffs, standards for products and so on.
In other words, Northern Ireland needs to be part of the EU Customs Union.
The British government’s position is such that they can’t agree to any permanent situation: they’ve ruled out the entire UK being in the Customs Union, DUP opposition means they can’t accept Northern Ireland being in the Customs Union without the rest of the UK, and Northern Ireland not being in the Customs Union would require a hard border.
The backstop is a pretense: Northern Ireland will be in the Customs Union ‘temporarily’, ‘if no other solution can be found’. Both parties know that there is no other solution, but it allows the British government to say that they don’t like what’s happening either, and that it’s just a temporary situation while we negotiate something better.
Unfortunately Brexiteers have realized that it’s a trick, but have blamed the wrong side: they tend to characterize the backstop as the EU tricking Britain into staying in the Customs Union.
The EU want what they want because
i) the Republic of Ireland wants it, and if the EU failed to support the Republic of Ireland against Britain, Poland (for example) might wonder what would happen if it had a dispute with Russia. Membership of the EU would therefore become far less attractive.
ii) The Good Friday Agreement was a demonstration of the EU’s ability to bring peace to Europe.
iii) They probably would rather not have the Troubles come back.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY EU DOES NOT WANT THE IRISH PEAPLE THROWING TATTYS AT EACH OTHER ,LOL.

 

[telectrix]

all smoke and mirrors. the crux of the matter is that the eu are pi$$ed off about losing one of their biggest financial milk cows and a spitting dummies out faster than a AK47.

 

[Deleted account]

Back on track with the thread.

My business will not be significantly affected.

I accept some businesses will be affected for the worse and others for the better.

It will be the import and export businesses that will be affected.

Imported electrical goods from Europe may cost more.

Imported food may cost more. If this is the case then our farmers can start to sell there produce on a more level playing field.

Over all I think we will as a country initially be slightly worse off. Long term better of.
A ten year settling in period in my humble opinion.

 

[telectrix]

agree in part. but trade with USA, Australia, China, should more than make up for losing out on a bit of eu trade. sod the french. we don't want their reject wines, onions and frogs legs. sod the germans, we've too many bmws and audis anyway. the spanish can go fish their own waters instead of raping ours. sooner we get out, deal or no deal, the better for us.

 

[Lou]

You aren't derailing it @Midwest , it is a thread about the effects of Brexit for you and your job not what everyone voted for.

I think it will go on for years and years.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I’ve been doing a site over the last 2 years....They have planning for 500 light commercial/industrial units. We’ve done roughly 200 so far in blocks of roughly 50 and I’m just finishing a phase of 50 which should be completed in about a week. Normally they would already be cracking on with the ground works for the next lot but they’ve stopped and laid all their subbies off. I’m good pals with the owner and he’s said that they aren’t doing anything until the new year as they want to get brexit out the way to see how it pans out. Tbh i think it’s a sensible move....If I was in his shoes I would also be waiting rather than chucking 3 million quid at something whilst we are in limbo.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

What has been damaging so far is the uncertainty factor - people not knowing if they will still have jobs, or UK based jobs, therefore being reluctant to commit to significant purchasing decisions such as moving home, getting married, taking on a larger mortgage, etc.

Another issue has been supplier price increases "because of Brexit", which started to appear as early as the summer of 2016.

 

[ferg]

My business is reliant on the tourism industry one way or another.

Tourists will keep coming whatever the outcome and the weak pound probably doesn't do us any harm either in that respect.

Like littlespark I was much more worried about the independence referendum.

Frankly I just wish the pillocks we voted in to parliament could agree on a way forward and get on with it.

At the moment they can't even agree on what time of day it is.

Leave or remain? Who cares!! just do it!!

 

[plugsandsparks]

Not affecting my business at all and not expecting it to. Economy has supposed to have slowed down, but not for me, i need a holiday.
Cannot see Brexit affecting business in any meaningful way, either way, however the uncertainty certainly is affecting some businesses, no question.
Its a mess and i feel i want my money back from the 650 MPs costing me £100,000 a pop. its outrageous

 

[AJshep]

Not effecting my buisness, I'm pretty busy at the moment and have projects that will last me well into next summer.
I do think Brexit is having an effect on some though, I think its more the fact that people are cautious, and are hesitant to make decisions until Brexit is over.
In my area lots of smaller trades have been busy as people tend to be extending rather than moving.
Imo we have lots of issues in the UK we either leave or forget brexit altogether. 3 years or arguing, campaigning and blocking is what I believe is causing the most damage, if MPs have the power and are just going to block everything all the time then its just wasting our money, I dread to think how much money has been wasted.

 

[James]

This could affect any of us.
Don’t believe you are isolated because you only do domestic etc.

If it turns out bad, there will be a drop in confidence for companies and employers who will buy less, hire fewer people etc.
We will all be directly or indirectly affected.

 

[telectrix]

but, referring to my previous post. we joined the eu long before ROI did. there was no problem with the border then, with ids being in and ROI out. so why is there so much fuss about it now. it's just that we will be out, while ROI are still in. just a role reversal.

 

[andyb]

but, referring to my previous post. we joined the eu long before ROI did. there was no problem with the border then, with ids being in and ROI out. so why is there so much fuss about it now. it's just that we will be out, while ROI are still in. just a role reversal.

They joined at the same time as the UK Tel, and there was a border and there was a problem with it.

 

[Zerax]

The whole Irish Border thing is clearly a ruse... to stop us leaving the EU too easily. You only have to cross the external EU border in a few places to realise that although there is officially a 'check' or a 'search' or a passport desk... usually this never happens and you are just waved through.

 

[andyb]

The whole Irish Border thing is clearly a ruse... to stop us leaving the EU too easily. You only have to cross the external EU border in a few places to realise that although there is officially a 'check' or a 'search' or a passport desk... usually this never happens and you are just waved through.

You maybe waved through Zerax but lorries are not.

Even between Norway and Sweden or Switzerland and the several EU countries it borders there is border infrastructure. This is what they want to avoid in Ireland.

 

[Zerax]

You maybe waved through Zerax but lorries are not.

Even between Norway and Sweden or Switzerland and the several EU countries it borders there is border infrastructure. This is what they want to avoid in Ireland.

Yes... border infrastructure... but in reality very little is checked. It's typical of the EU generally... lots of rules and regulations, but largely ignored. Thats one of the reasons why we never really 'fitted in' with the rest of the EU... we actually obey the rules and regulations !

 

[GBDamo]

Well it's all getting interesting,

Boris has stated he will not deliver Corbyn's "Surrender Bill" to Brussels. I've read he will simply not ask for Royal Consent, which is required for this type of bill.

But, cunningly, he will inform parliament beforehand and allow, if not call, a Vote of No Confidence in his own Government.

Thus leaving parliment two options,

1, Vote in favoir of the Government and in doing so allow Boris not to deliver the "Surrender Bill" and a No Deal Brexit follows on the 31st of October.

2, Vote " No Confidence" and force a General Election and either Torry/Brexit Party romp home with a majority or there is simply insufficient time and a No Deal default occurs on 31st October.

Looks like Brexit may be happening at last.

 

[SparkyChick]

I'm just dealing with a bunch of reports about the content of this thread.

This is a divisive subject that will ultimately result in some strong opinions being displayed. If these opinions do not align with yours, please do not waste staff time by reporting the posts unless they contain truly offensive material.

I for example am a leaver and want to see the back of the EU and am sick and tired of people on the wider internet implying I'm an uneducated, xenophobic biggot who was brainwashed by the leave campaign. Do I report every post I see that implies this? No, because I believe people have the right to express their views, even if I disagree with them. Words on a screen cannot hurt me because if I really don't like them I can simply skip them. If there is a view in this thread (or others) that you disagree with, move along, do not waste staff time reporting posts because you simply disagree with them. Members who do this may be subject to a temporary holiday for wasting staff time.

 

[Deleted account]

I thought this thread was for expressing how your business was going to be affected by brexit.
Not how you voted.

 

[SparkyChick]

I thought this thread was for expressing how your business was going to be affected by brexit.
Not how you voted.

It is, but the subject will ultimately result in some decent into a discussion about politics. My voting position was used simply by way of an example

 

[Deleted account]

It is, but the subject will ultimately result in some decent into a discussion about politics. My voting position was used simply by way of an example

My comment wasn’t aimed at your post SC.

It was aimed as a reminder of what post 1 said as I am very interested to know if people think there business is safe or under threat or if they are feeling anything now.

But your quite correct a hot topic like this will go off thread.

We don't want to discuss what you voted for and who likes who the best - but for discussing how your think your business could be affected by Brexit then use this thread.

So

How do you think your business will be affected by Brexit? Would it be better to leave or stay? Has your business already been affected?

 

[rapparee]

It will affect me trying to get machine parts sourced over night from Germany.

 

[Zerax]

It will affect me trying to get machine parts sourced over night from Germany.

I'm kinda hoping that any difficulty in importing 'stuff' might mean that it levels the playing field a bit and we can start to make 'stuff' here again. Might be a big hope as allegedly we are at almost full employment, so we lack the people.... oh hang on, aren't we going to have major job losses if we are ever allowed to leave ?

 

[rapparee]

I'm kinda hoping that any difficulty in importing 'stuff' might mean that it levels the playing field a bit and we can start to make 'stuff' here again. Might be a big hope as allegedly we are at almost full employment, so we lack the people.... oh hang on, aren't we going to have major job losses if we are ever allowed to leave ?

That's a crazy mentality

I work in a manufacturing environment. The UK is too small to source exact components from.

The lack of labour I wouldn't worry about, any factory worth it's salt is getting into automation.

You need access to the full eu marketplace.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Had absolutely no ill effect yet , but I’m only small fry one man and his hamster kinda business

That said I have noticed food prices are steadily rising possibly as a cause of brexit but again could just be coincidence?

A post brexit house price crash probably won’t be good for big firms who rely on work from the big developers ?

 

[Lou]

Morning folks, I have cleared this thread up a bit

Please keep this thread on topic, which is

How do you think Brexit will affect you and your business?

 

[DPG]

That's a crazy mentality

I work in a manufacturing environment. The UK is too small to source exact components from.

The lack of labour I wouldn't worry about, any factory worth it's salt is getting into automation.

Factories have been getting into automation for many decades now, it's not a new thing.

 

[7upsgreat]

Like many others I doubt it will impact my business, if it ever happens. The only way it's possibly going to hurt me is if 'we' allow the nay-sayers to talk us into another recession.

 

[rapparee]

Factories have been getting into automation for many decades now, it's not a new thing.

Robots 'to replace up to 20 million factory jobs' by 2030

A huge acceleration in the use of robots will affect jobs around the world, Oxford Economics says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yes, but we're on the cusp of a wave.

It's being opened up to nearly every process.

We are now automating white collar jobs as well.

We are actually closing our financial department and looking to run it through SAP.

 

[Risteard]

I forgot to add that one of the direct effects to my business was that a public liability insurance policy that I held issued in Dublin covering my work in the south of Ireland was not renewed. No claim had ever been made on the policy, but I was informed that due to a new law the insurance company would not renew the policy. This flies in the face of the lies told by the 26-County Taoiseach Leo Varadkar that his administration would prevent any new barriers to cross-border trade given that they have enacted this law. I contacted numerous other insurance agents/companies in the State and was refused by all of them.

Eventually I managed to have a UK policy amended to meet all of the requirements of RECI, but this was no easy task. On the plus side it has saved me €650.