Cleaning up 220 for fish pond

[Indie6]

Homeowner here, working on my fish pond power supply. (Fish pond came with the house and I'm wanting to update.)

Currently 220v comes off of a 2 pole 20A breaker and goes to a fused disconnect. From there, it splits into two 110v circuits and powers two outlets where pumps are plugged in.

I have a new pump that I'd like to plug into 220, and then have the additional outlets, and all tied to the fused disconnect so I can shut all the power off to the pond from one location.

Question: Do I leave the 220 wiring from the 2 pole 20A breaker to the disconnect, and then go from the disconnect to another breaker box where I can split the power to go to a 220 plug and then to the the outlets utilizing another 2 pole 20 and a couple single pole 15's?

Or do I remove the 2 pole 20 from the panel, tie the wiring directly to the bus at the panel, go straight to the fused disconnect and then to the breaker box with the 2 pole 20 and two single pole 15's?

Let me know if this needs clarification.

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance in cleaning this up.

 

[Indie6]

Homeowner here, working on my fish pond power supply. (Fish pond came with the house and I'm wanting to update.)

Currently 220v comes off of a 2 pole 20A breaker and goes to a fused disconnect. From there, it splits into two 110v circuits and powers two outlets where pumps are plugged in.

I have a new pump that I'd like to plug into 220, and then have the additional outlets, and all tied to the fused disconnect so I can shut all the power off to the pond from one location.

Question: Do I leave the 220 wiring from the 2 pole 20A breaker to the disconnect, and then go from the disconnect to another breaker box where I can split the power to go to a 220 plug and then to the the outlets utilizing another 2 pole 20 and a couple single pole 15's?

Or do I remove the 2 pole 20 from the panel, tie the wiring directly to the bus at the panel, go straight to the fused disconnect and then to the breaker box with the 2 pole 20 and two single pole 15's?

Let me know if this needs clarification.

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance in cleaning this up.

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[DPG]

92 Views and no response?

Is there something about my question that I can clarify?

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@Megawatt

 

[Megawatt]

Homeowner here, working on my fish pond power supply. (Fish pond came with the house and I'm wanting to update.)

Currently 220v comes off of a 2 pole 20A breaker and goes to a fused disconnect. From there, it splits into two 110v circuits and powers two outlets where pumps are plugged in.

I have a new pump that I'd like to plug into 220, and then have the additional outlets, and all tied to the fused disconnect so I can shut all the power off to the pond from one location.

Question: Do I leave the 220 wiring from the 2 pole 20A breaker to the disconnect, and then go from the disconnect to another breaker box where I can split the power to go to a 220 plug and then to the the outlets utilizing another 2 pole 20 and a couple single pole 15's?

Or do I remove the 2 pole 20 from the panel, tie the wiring directly to the bus at the panel, go straight to the fused disconnect and then to the breaker box with the 2 pole 20 and two single pole 15's?

Let me know if this needs clarification.

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance in cleaning this up.

Could you please send me a picture of the inside of your panel. I can’t understand why you would need to add another sub panel just to add a few breakers.

 

[Indie6]

Could you please send me a picture of the inside of your panel. I can’t understand why you would need to add another sub panel just to add a few breakers.

The pictures below is the current set up.

The sub panel in the shop has the 2 pole 20 amp breaker as shown with the post it note, and there is no more room for additional breakers.

The 220 leaves the sub panel and goes to the fused disconnect in picture 2. From there, each leg of the 220v goes to an outlet where each leg serves one duplex. Power is then ran again from one of the duplexes to another 4 gang box where it feeds 2 more duplex receptacles. The main pump can draw up to 14 amps and is plugged in on the left.

I'm thinking I need to go from shop sub panel to another breaker box. In that breaker box, I could utilize a 2 pole 20A breaker and go directly to a 220v outlet and be able to plug the pump directly into that (will need to change wiring of the pump; etc) and then utilize additional 15 amp breakers for the various outlets. Intent is to be able to shut the pond down completely with the fused disconnect.

I was questioning whether or not I needed the breaker in the shop sub panel or if I should remove the breaker and tie the wires directly to the bus terminals.

It's a bit of a mess and was looking for some insight as to how to clean this up.

 

[Indie6]

Could you please send me a picture of the inside of your panel. I can’t understand why you would need to add another sub panel just to add a few breakers.

Megawatt - I added pictures and more description. Did you have any additional thoughts to add?

 

[Megawatt]

Megawatt - I added pictures and more description. Did you have any additional thoughts to add?

My friend I see a lot of code violations in the pictures you just sent. Can you not just take the disconnect down and replace it with a panel. You could pull # 8 copper 4 wire from what ever is feeding it. The receptacles on the wall is required to have GFCI weather resistant receptacles and the holes on top need to be closed and a required bubble cover. The stand alone receptacle is also required to be GFCI protected, it looks like it needs to be reinstalled back enough so the the cover can close, all the exposed wiring needs to be buried of sleeved with conduit. Let us know if you need any more information

 

[Megawatt]

My friend I see a lot of code violations in the pictures you just sent. Can you not just take the disconnect down and replace it with a panel. You could pull # 8 copper 4 wire from what ever is feeding it. The receptacles on the wall is required to have GFCI weather resistant receptacles and the holes on top need to be closed and a required bubble cover. The stand alone receptacle is also required to be GFCI protected, it looks like it needs to be reinstalled back enough so the the cover can close, all the exposed wiring needs to be buried of sleeved with conduit. Let us know if you need any more information

It probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to just change out your existing panel that with one has more circuits