Cumbria shootings

[rocker]

Hope no one on here was involved or knew anyone involved. What drives people to that level of madness?

 

[Sintra]

Just watched the report on it.

Some total looneys about.

 

[RexT]

Hi Rocker,

No idea why and the strange thing is that he wasnt described as weird ot strange on the news just a friendly guy - makes you think I guess.
What a waste of life.
Rex

 

[mnmwill]

They do say that you never really know people, that report said he had an argument with some colleagues, looks like that set him off. Heart breaking for all the families of the victims.

 

[Spudnik]

Very sad news indeed.

 

[cbw]

I have been 'unwell' for a year now, 3 weeks ago they talked about taking my high velocity rifle off me.......1 WHOLE year...1 whole bloomin year and then they decide I may be a danger to myself or the public.....3 weeks later and I am back on the Ambulances and certified well......The whole thing needs a shake up!

 

[rocker]

The weird thing is, (here we go) is that there are a few people who have seen him, and he has seen them seeing him, but he hasn't shot them. Made me think that these incidents may not be that random, and he may have been shooting these people for a specific reason.

Isn't it frightening to think that some fella you may be havng a bit of banter with in the pub may turn up the next morning, shotgun in hand. The pressures of this modern world do some crazy things to people. Flippin' lunatics, just wish I could do something for the loved of the victims.

 

[Phil]

my heart goes out to all the family`s that are left behind to cope with such a needless end to their loved ones.

 

[Des 56]

There will always be nutters in this world, who end up killing or harming others
The tragedy here is no different to the nutter who commits a single crime
The difference being he had the tools to multiply his evil

The most tragic thing is that
The gun loving lobby caused some families to pay such a high price for their freedom to posess these tools
That freedom enabled the other tragedies before this, to be less of a lesson than society believed


Ban all ownership of these weapons I say
the price paid for the few who hold their possession dear,is the ultimate price and is not a price that should be paid

 

[UNG]

There will always be nutters in this world, who end up killing or harming others
The tragedy here is no different to the nutter who commits a single crime
The difference being he had the tools to multiply his evil

The most tragic thing is that
The gun loving lobby caused some families to pay such a high price for their freedom to posess these tools
That freedom enabled the other tragedies before this, to be less of a lesson than society believed


Ban all ownership of these weapons I say
the price paid for the few who hold their possession dear,is the ultimate price and is not a price that should be paid

I did wonder how long it would take for this Dunblane / Hungerford style ban the guns campaign / posts

There are a lot of legally held guns / firearms used in this country not only for leisure and sporting use do you suggest they are banned as well

Pity no one spoke up and banned guns in Northern Ireland when people were getting shot but all those weren't legally held

 

[rocker]

This guy's guns were illegal. He would have had them regardless of whether you ban guns, the same as the majority of gun crime in this country.

 

[Des 56]

I did wonder how long it would take for this Dunblane / Hungerford style ban the guns campaign / posts

There are a lot of legally held guns / firearms used in this country not only for leisure and sporting use do you suggest they are banned as well

/QUOTE]


My answer to that is YES they should all be banned

There are enough sport and liesure opportunities to satisfy anybodys needs without the inclusion of these killer tools
The holding and possession of private lethal weapons is one "right" that has no place in society, just to satisy the selfish attitudes of that minority of people who own these killing tools

For any circumstances that require their use, eg farmers or nature conservation,they should be permitted only when the need is absolutely necessary, and under strict paid for supervision by the police

The people killed by criminals and gunmen,sometimes by weapons held legally, have paid and will continue to pay too high a price for them to continue to have that freedom

Northern ireland was a totally different situation
Private gunslingers and a national conflict are completely different circumstances
Wars and conflict however terrible the price paid are not the same issue
This type of tragedy(again)can be influenced and the opportunity for this type of outrage be restricted even more,because whatever the restrictions now,they were not enough

 

[Des 56]

This guy's guns were illegal. He would have had them regardless of whether you ban guns, the same as the majority of gun crime in this country.

I just saw the news and he has had guns held legally for twenty years
The licences are renewable( after the period was extended) from three to five years

 

[pennywise]

If it wasn't guns it would have been a knife, eventually we won't be able to own anything as it could be deemed a danger if an unstable person got behind it , he could have just as easily have used his taxi to mow people down. Not condoning his actions for a second

 

[wallyanker]

I agree with Pennywise, what this person has done is totally unacceptable, but it has nothing to do with the availability of leathal weapons. Yes, you can ban all guns, but this will open a space for illegal shippings and black markets for guns. Its not controlling the firearms that's the problem, its controlling the minds and mentalities of people possessing one, and unfortunately that is just about impossible.