Good crimp/ferrule set

[gazdkw82]

I'm starting to use crimps and ferrules more and more and I think I need to invest in a good kit. It's a mindfield. Been on RS and some of the good kits are massively expensive.

What's everyone else using? Best to buy the bits and crimper separately and buikd your own box or buy a set?

I have lots of bits but they are all varied types and qualities (Xmas presents from relatives so probably cheapest available from Amazon/eBay)

 

[SparkyChick]

For bootlace ferrules, I'm using one of the kits on this page...

Missing Cookie - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/tcl/search?query=ferrule&Submit=Search

It works great. For ferrules when I run out, I pick them up from either TLC or my wholesaler.

 

[mhar]

Did my 18th edition update last week and during one of the more general discussions, we were told to C2 crimps on solid conductors unless they were done with the type of crimper that make the indents ie unless they were done with a crimper and crimps designed specifically for solid conductors

 

[Yplan]

I use these and they are brilliant but about £100

 

[gazdkw82]

So what's the difference between french french and German?

What's the difference in crimpers for solid and stranded?

 

[Yplan]

The crimps you use for solid or stranded are different therefore require different crimpers.

 

[FatAlan]

For bootlace ferrules, I'm using one of the kits on this page...

Missing Cookie - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/tcl/search?query=ferrule&Submit=Search

It works great. For ferrules when I run out, I pick them up from either TLC or my wholesaler.

French and German colours? Are there any UK colours or is it that UK conductors are so good they don’t need crimping? Answers must not include any reference to Brexit

 

[FatAlan]

So what's the difference between french french and German?

What's the difference in crimpers for solid and stranded?

Beat me to it

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I'm starting to use crimps and ferrules more and more and I think I need to invest in a good kit. It's a mindfield. Been on RS and some of the good kits are massively expensive.

What's everyone else using? Best to buy the bits and crimper separately and buikd your own box or buy a set?

I have lots of bits but they are all varied types and qualities (Xmas presents from relatives so probably cheapest available from Amazon/eBay)

This is the crimping tool that I use )for 0.5mm - 6mm cable) https://uk.farnell.com/ck-tools/430...991&CATCI=pla-299908740651&CAAGID=14406255429
I find it very good. I used a friends cheaper crimping tool and I could pull the crimps apart. With my CK crimping tool I tested it in the shed by holding the crimped cable in a vice and pulling as hard as I could and it didn't budge. I also left the cable for a few months and tried again... with the 1mm joints I could 'sometimes' (1 out of 3) pull them apart by using most of my body weight whilst pulling but the 2.5mm and 6mm didn't break.

It did make a big difference if the crimping joint was not done properly. I.e having the crimp in the correct position in the crimping tool (end of the crimp flush with the tool for 1mm and 2.5mm crimps and the crimp slightly inside the tool for 6mm crimps) and also having both sides of the crimp done at the same level, i.e a flat crimp rather than at right angles.

I have also bought a hex crimping tool for 6mm - 50mm joins. I use this for any (rare) 6mm crimps as I think it's better than even a good quality indent crimp.

 

[SparkyChick]

The difference between the two schemes is the colours used to identify size. The reality is though as far as I'm aware, most sizes are available in the various colours, but the scheme's make it easy to identify size.

 

[Yplan]

Yeh I agree @SparkyChick

2.5mm can be blue or grey so must just either french or German colours.

 

[telectrix]

for ferrules, i use this:
1200PCS Bootlace Ferrule Kit W/ Bootlace Ferrule Hand Crimper Crimping Tool 6492090865012 | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1200PCS-Bootlace-Ferrule-Kit-W-Bootlace-Ferrule-Hand-Crimper-Crimping-Tool/302872593137?hash=item46849d02f1:g:KJMAAOSw9LlbmjUx

cheap, but makes a good job. and no struggling to see faint size markings on the non-auto sizing types.

 

[SparkyChick]

I think the colours are handy if you don't keep them stored by size.

The last lot of 0.75mm I bought we blue.

They are dead handy things to have.

And if you have knipex installation pliers, they'll do all the sizes up to 2.5mm

 

[gazdkw82]

The difference between the two schemes is the colours used to identify size. The reality is though as far as I'm aware, most sizes are available in the various colours, but the scheme's make it easy to identify size.

So it's best to pick a scheme and get used to it?

 

[telectrix]

So it's best to pick a scheme and get used to it?

nah. if it goes in without a hammer, it's the right size. .

 

[gazdkw82]

I think the colours are handy if you don't keep them stored by size.

The last lot of 0.75mm I bought we blue.

They are dead handy things to have.

And if you have knipex installation pliers, they'll do all the sizes up to 2.5mm

I do have those pliers. The crimp on them relies on your own judgment on crimping tight enough?

 

[SparkyChick]

So it's best to pick a scheme and get used to it?

I sort them by size in an organizer so I don't care about schemes, I just but what my wholesaler had.

Common sizes. 0.75mm for lighting, 1.5mm for flexes in plugs, 4mm, 10mm and 16mm for tidying up the end of earth's and the stranded cpc in 10mm cables.

2.5mm if you use a lot of 2.5mm SWA

 

[telectrix]

thought ferrules were only used for for fine stranded, not general 7 strand conductors. however, can't see a problem using them for 7 strand.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

The difference between the two schemes is the colours used to identify size. The reality is though as far as I'm aware, most sizes are available in the various colours, but the scheme's make it easy to identify size.

Any chance you could delete 2 of the identical posts above by myself SC? Don't know what happened there!

 

[gazdkw82]

I sort them by size in an organizer so I don't care about schemes, I just but what my wholesaler had.

Common sizes. 0.75mm for lighting, 1.5mm for flexes in plugs, 4mm, 10mm and 16mm for tidying up the end of earth's and the stranded cpc in 10mm cables.

2.5mm if you use a lot of 2.5mm SWA

Is that just based on visually looking at them to determine the size?

 

[Yplan]

Like this

 

[telectrix]

Like this

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that's a nice kit of ferrules there. you might manage to use them all if you outlive me and pete 999. . i particularly like the double ferrules. very usefull. think i have about 50 of them.

 

[Yplan]

Lol well I do bms so I use them all time tbf

But thanks @telectrix

 

[SparkyChick]

Any chance you could delete 2 of the identical posts above by myself SC? Don't know what happened there!

Sorted

 

[gazdkw82]

I think I may try and sort all mine out. I have loads of crimps and ferrules, different colour arrangements. Have 2 crimpers and a hex one for ferrules

 

[gazdkw82]

This is what I have. It seems it's a mixture of different colour variations.

I think I may get a container with more compartments and arrange them in a easier format.

 

[SparkyChick]

This is what I have. It seems it's a mixture of different colour variations.

I think I may get a container with more compartments and arrange them in a easier format.

View attachment 45172

Mine are split out into ferrules, red, blue, yellow insulated, uninsulated.

 

[Yplan]

I have a separate box for ring crimps and copper lug crimps that box earlier is for my controls work mainly with cy cables and flexes I've also got my numbers in there.

 

[gazdkw82]

Just ordered a raaco carrylite 55 case. Lots of compartments so I can sort it all out logically

 

[Simonslimline]

These for end sleeves. self adjusting up to 16mm2.

 

[gazdkw82]

Got a set like that. Cheaper set mind. Only use for ferrules

 

[gazdkw82]

So my new container turned up. Sorted all the bits out into size and types. Ferrules seem to be a mixture of colour schemes. The big blues seem to be a colour that doesn't confirm to the German or french colours. Looks like 6mm

 

[Timbo]

This isn't a bad set for under a tenner.

Excellway® EC02 800Pcs Insulated Wire Connector Cord Pin End Terminal With Crim - US$9.99 - Banggood Mobile - https://m.banggood.com/800Pcs-Insulated-Wire-Connector-Cord-Pin-End-Terminal-With-Crimper-Plier-p-1088289.html?rmmds=browsinghistory#popupStatePOA

Bear in mind that orders over £15 attract VAT.

 

[gazdkw82]

That kit has the exact colour scheme mine do. Any ideas what colour scheme it is?

I want to label the containers so I know what sizes the ferrules refer too

 

[Timbo]

Have a look at BealUK.
Assorted Cord Ends GERMAN (2600) - https://www.beal.org.uk/assorted-boxes/electrical-terminals/assorted-cord-ends-german-2600.html

They also sell individual sizes and crimping tools.

 

[gazdkw82]

That still doesn't make sense. Neither the French or German colours have a blue as 6mm

 

[SparkyChick]

If I were you, I'd be breaking out my vernier callipers and measuring them. Failing that, just stick the ones your not sure about in one pot Everyone has a parts pot which is full of odds and ends

 

[CACJL]

So what's the difference between french french and German?

What's the difference in crimpers for solid and stranded?

A different colour code.