Lets see some examples of Bodge jobs you have seen the worse the better!

[Gary Gemmell]

Here check these pics of our so called electricians work
If I had been there to supervise he would have gotten his arse kicked up the street until he was wearing it as a hat!

Spot the disasters:-

1) Used black cable cos it was all he had left in his van - no trunking or white cable to do the job properly And how did i know - cos he just chucked his empty reel into my plastics bin

2) Drilled through the double glazing and yip its now lost its vacuum seal

3) Checkout those leccie tails in the cupboard - not even recessed behind the backer board and not soldered or properly connected just scotblocked together i dont even think the tape is electrical - and the kid in our building puts his bike in that cupboard - those tails are live when the time clock switches on

4) Didnt even hoover up his drill mess

 

[AJshep]

That is awful, leaving single Insulated cables wrapped in tape is breach EAWR.
The drilling through the window frame is just DS and something that I would expect a "sky engineer" to do. I take it this is someone the managing agents got in ?
If so report it to them with these pictures.

If he/she is registered with a Scheme you could also report it to them.

 

[buzzlightyear]

If he/she is registered with a Scheme you need to report it to them along with these pictures

and what are they going to do , they take the monies for the scam and they will tell the punter to get them back .

 

[Dan]

Is it the schemes fault though? They haven't seen or done the job.

Surely it's the customer who needs to realise it's terrible and then report it?

How do the schemes know?

(As a random bloke and not a sparky - I don't mean to be awkward when saying that, I'm genuinely asking - How do they know it's gone on? how can they react?)

 

[buzzlightyear]

to me thinks a DIY job or hood wink electrical company . hoodwinked into thinking the cucumber was a sawn-off shotgun,lol.

 

[AJshep]

and what are they going to do , they take the monies for the scam and they will tell the punter to get them back .

probably not alot but they are duty bound to sort it out. If the customer reports it to them, then someone gets a shock they would then hold some liability.

If it the schemes fault ?
Not really, but they are the ones whom seem to defining their members competency and offer some guarantee that their members comply with the EAWR, BS7671 and building control
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I agree with Buzz though most likely it's just a DIYer.

 

[Baddegg]

Is it the schemes fault though? They haven't seen or done the job.

Surely it's the customer who needs to realise it's terrible and then report it?

How do the schemes know?

(As a random bloke and not a sparky - I don't mean to be awkward when saying that, I'm genuinely asking - How do they know it's gone on? how can they react?)

That’s the trouble dan, they can ring the scheme assuming they know which one.......the only recourse the scheme has is to throw a paying member out......

 

[buzzlightyear]

the only recourse the scheme has is to throw a paying member out..

they are more consent about people using thier logo ,NICEIC when they are not with the scams ,if they throw them out they will go to another scam any way .

 

[Baddegg]

they are more consent about people using thier logo ,NICEIC when they are not with the scams ,if they throw them out they will go to another scam any way .

Exactly my point buzz....they hardly going to lose they income so nothing gets done

 

[Vortigern]

I guess you live in a flat (block of?) The landlord is responsible for this work imo. I recently started work for a landlord. Went to change some broken sockets that was all! In the process standard checks revealed a live on the lighting cpc throughout the flat. I tried to track down the fault but this was not the usual loop in loop out scenario. It was no doubt JBs spidering out all over to the lights in very random manners. The landlord would not (understandably) allow me into the flat above to investigate the JBs. So it all came down to he wanted me to rewire it in conduit on the ceiling and walls. I visualised the outcome of what that would look like. Bearing in mind there were recessed lights throughout. And said I cannot do this work as it would look awful you need to rewire it properly. He said "So, you are going to leave me in the S**t then" I said yes (no actually the problem already existed) envisaging a load of crap jobs like these doing crap work which I could not put my name to. No doubt he got a man from the pub who did what he wanted. But some landlords not all, are like that, cheap and nasty, anything to get the rent they just do not care. I suspect you may know such a landlord. And if you want bad work ---- there is a thread on here with thousands of examples and worse of such abysmal electrical work. So much for the CPS schemes eh?

 

[buzzlightyear]

you get what you pay for , coroner colin will do the job cheaply ,but you want get them back .

 

[Lister1987]

We have a much more established DTP - Dodgy Trade Pics, or Damage To Property - thread here;

Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views! - in - UK Electrical Forum

, Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!, UK Electrical Forum, ElectriciansForums.net Est.2006 | Free Electrical Advice Forum and page_number.

www.electriciansforums.net

I love botch as much as the next guy, gives me an idea how NOT to undertake our craft, but keep things tidy, we ain't plumbers or plasterers ??

 

[Gary Gemmell]

We have a much more established DTP - Dodgy Trade Pics, or Damage To Property - thread here;

Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views! - in - UK Electrical Forum

, Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!, UK Electrical Forum, ElectriciansForums.net Est.2006 | Free Electrical Advice Forum and page_number.

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I love botch as much as the next guy, gives me an idea how NOT to undertake our craft, but keep things tidy, we ain't plumbers or plasterers ??

Yeah i noticed it just after i posted this lol
Just wanted to get some opinions on this work before i approach the residents but it doesnt matter they never listen to me!

Its self factored but the two old guys who have been bodging ti from the start wont relinquish and let someone who knows how to do it.

I have already proven I can do it when i arranged some guys to come in and rebuild our chimney stack invoices, 3 quotes, supervised the work ,before and after photos etc

That last job no quotes, no notification it was even being done , no invoices, no supervision and funny the electrician (i use the term loosely) never replied when the old guy downstairs tried to get him back - the thing that makes me mad is that he had already been in and muffed the light in the main hallway by installing a cheap fitting and putting in an overwattage bulb which melted the housing and eventually ended up needing replaced (not once but twice) and they still got him back in!

Needless to say i never paid for any of the bodge jobs so i am persona non grata around here - they just see me as the complainer.

And get this - i have helped every single person in this block from getting them a new laptop by using my company to write off their old one, fixing their pc's and printers, fixing their cars, sorting out their tv aerials, sorting out other bodge jobs like the timer in the hall cupboard and many many more - all of which i did for FREE!!!

And every single one of them has stabbed me in the back and constantly talk about me in a negative manner - Yip I am indeed a mug but i will continue to do jobs to help out as I want to look after my flat and this block and well my dad always taught me to turn the other cheek and do good when others do bad!

Trust NO 1 - Its a good motto to standby these days .... sadly!!!
Not the way my dad and mum brought me up to believe but sadly life has ground me down and reality has kicked my butt!

Want another laugh at some more bodge work
Check this water tank on the roof - plastic fitted over the old wooden housing and it has warped and will need done again.

 

[buzzlightyear]

we ain't plumbers or plasterers

im when at home , you tell wifey when she won't her bath room doing before xmas , not lol .

 

[Gary Gemmell]

im when at home , you tell wifey when she won't her bath room doing before xmas , not lol .

Sorry i dont speak gibberish
Can you translate or reply when ye aren't puggled!

 

[Baddegg]

Sorry i dont speak gibberish
Can you translate or reply when ye aren't puggled!

He is a plumber when he’s at home, you can tell his wife her bathrooms not getting done before Christmas because he’s not.......just takes some practice ?

 

[snowhead]

When was that rooftop water tank last inspected / tested / cleaned?

 

[Gary Gemmell]

When was that rooftop water tank last inspected / tested / cleaned?

Well i was up a few months ago i plan to do a drain and wetvac but I believe 1963.

The problem is the neighbours we dont get on and they are as tivght as a gnarts chuff so its hard to get any work done!

Here check the tanks - lovely - A good reason why you should never drink from the cold water taps in the bathroom lol
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When was that rooftop water tank last inspected / tested / cleaned?

Thats the tankhouse on the other side - me and a good builder i iknow did our side and well what can i say - polish polish!

 

[snowhead]

Please tell me that that tank is no longer in use.

 

[Gary Gemmell]

Please tell me that that tank is no longer in use.

Been in use since 1963.

And yes that overflow pipe in the centre is covered in what looks like congealed fat and who knows what else and both tanks actualyl have an old wooden cover on em!

There also used to be a heater in that tankhouse peresumably to keep the water from freezing in winter but its burned out now in both tankhouses - health and safety in the 60's eh lol

We currently have issues with the cold water blocking - not flush in the cistern and cold taps not working - I have backflushed it every time there is a blockage but i need to get up there and empty them , wetvac and sort it out as there are two tanks - one on the left feeds the boilers and the one on the right feeds the cold water taps in the bathrooms for all the flats.

Pretty gross eh - not looking forward to putting my arm in either one!

 

[littlespark]

And get this - i have helped every single person in this block from getting them a new laptop by using my company to write off their old one, fixing their pc's and printers,

You know what I’m going to ask, Gary...
I want an HP with i7 processor just so I can beat my daughters i5 on specs.

you get what you pay for , coroner colin will do the job cheaply ,but you want get them back .

Nothing wrong with being a Colin.

 

[Gary Gemmell]

You know what I’m going to ask, Gary...
I want an HP with i7 processor just so I can beat my daughters i5 on specs.

Nothing wrong with being a Colin.

Well being a tightbutt scotsman i would recommend an alternative method and go for ebay - I recently bought 5 Dell E5530 Core I7 laptops (slight damage) for around £40 each - bunged in a 240gb Integral P-Series SSD (The fastest 240gb ssd by the way - i benchmark em) and added 8gb ram £20 - they have illumianrted keyboards for night use as well as fingerprint reader and great build quality , hdmi out esata and moe sockets than any HP - the metal casing beats any HP - bung a free copy of windows 10 and yeehhaaa runs like ordure off a shovel!

The thing is to look for bulk sellers who have bought loads at auctions or companies getting rid there are some real bargains to be had - I never buy new its a false economy like buying a new car!

Get yourself a PR02X docking station for £4.99 and that will make your daughter jealous and the best part - less than a tun for it all!

Take the dvd cd drive out and stick in a converter cage with a 1tb conventional HDU and you have an instant backup solution and storage area away from your boot disk.

Best laptop i have ever owned - sold the others for £120 each and thats cheap.

HP - well i am a bit of a Dell fan even the old D600 series were great although they had the notorious Nvidia Gfx chip fault i still have 3 of em!

HP HP well i can't really recommend em anymore as i dont use em now.
But try hotukdeals.co.uk there are a few on there on sale at the mo!

 

[littlespark]

Cheers, mate. Something to think about. I’ve built desktops before so I know my RAM from my SSDs...

Not too fussed being HP to be honest, just what I’m used to, currently have 2 desktops, 3 laptops and a printer all HP.

 

[Gary Gemmell]

Cheers, mate. Something to think about. I’ve built desktops before so I know my RAM from my SSDs...

Not too fussed being HP to be honest, just what I’m used to, currently have 2 desktops, 3 laptops and a printer all HP.

Nothing wrong with HP my living room has a few servers and desktops lol
Girlfriend hates my lounge - she wants me to get rid of the purple slate bed coin operated pool table but i just cant - got it for £100 and recovered it and had many a night of jays and beers with the lads on it - sadly now it lies forlorne women just cant play pool!
lol

 

[telectrix]

nice room.where's the Dali prints?

 

[Gary Gemmell]

nice room.where's the Dali prints?

Jack Vettriano actually!
Dali is so not De Rigeur darling!

Or was that a hint that I am weird, strange, odd, mad?
All been said before and if so yes correct its good to be weird , odd , strange its the "normal" folsk you have to worry about!

 

[davesparks]

Is it the schemes fault though? They haven't seen or done the job.

Surely it's the customer who needs to realise it's terrible and then report it?

How do the schemes know?

(As a random bloke and not a sparky - I don't mean to be awkward when saying that, I'm genuinely asking - How do they know it's gone on? how can they react?)

No, the schemes don't know when one of their members carries out a poor job like this.
They would know about it if they were to accept complaints about work carried out by their members from other skilled people, but they don't. They only take complaints from customers.
When a customer complains they just get told to speak to the scheme member directly and get them to deal with it.

And so the scheme turns a blind eye to the complaints whilst appearing to handle them.

At the annual assessment for scheme membership the assessor only sees the work that the scheme member wants them to see. We choose which jobs to take them to, we choose what to let them see or not see, so we only need to do 2/3 good jobs a year to stay members.

I don't see why the domestic competent persons schemes couldn't ask customers directly if they would be happy for the job to be looked at for the annual assessment. Every notified job gets a certificate sent to the customer by the scheme, they could put a note in the envelope with the certificate asking the customer if they are would be happy for the assessor to look at the job when the time comes. I believe the gas safe scheme works something like this, so why couldn't the electrical ones.
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We currently have issues with the cold water blocking - not flush in the cistern and cold taps not working - I have backflushed it every time there is a blockage but i need to get up there and empty them , wetvac and sort it out as there are two tanks - one on the left feeds the boilers and the one on the right feeds the cold water taps in the bathrooms for all the flats.

Pretty gross eh - not looking forward to putting my arm in either one!

Are you a plumber by trade and insured to carry out this work?
Are you fully aware of current water regulations and the current best practices for legionella prevention etc etc?

 

[DPG]

I wouldn't be putting my name to anything related to that water tank. Legionella here we come.

 

[PEG]

....I just want to spend an hour,in that 1970's Berni Inn snug....

Oh,and i'd use bottled water,to brush your teeth...

 

[Gary Gemmell]

No, the schemes don't know when one of their members carries out a poor job like this.
They would know about it if they were to accept complaints about work carried out by their members from other skilled people, but they don't. They only take complaints from customers.
When a customer complains they just get told to speak to the scheme member directly and get them to deal with it.

And so the scheme turns a blind eye to the complaints whilst appearing to handle them.

At the annual assessment for scheme membership the assessor only sees the work that the scheme member wants them to see. We choose which jobs to take them to, we choose what to let them see or not see, so we only need to do 2/3 good jobs a year to stay members.

I don't see why the domestic competent persons schemes couldn't ask customers directly if they would be happy for the job to be looked at for the annual assessment. Every notified job gets a certificate sent to the customer by the scheme, they could put a note in the envelope with the certificate asking the customer if they are would be happy for the assessor to look at the job when the time comes. I believe the gas safe scheme works something like this, so why couldn't the electrical ones.
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Are you a plumber by trade and insured to carry out this work?
Are you fully aware of current water regulations and the current best practices for legionella prevention etc etc?

Nope!!!!!!

But judging by the three quotes we had and the so called plumbers we would be better doing it ourselves.

One guy came in and started turning those taps that havent been turned since 1963 and yip guess what he hadn't a clue that washers dry out and yip 10 minutes after he left we had a leak!

Then we had another who was going to bail the tanks out with a bucket rather than use a pump obviously so he could spin the time out?

Third one wanted £500 - yip!

Nope if a job is worth doing its worth doing yourself.

Besides the other resident who is on these tanks is quite happy to save £300 and do it ourselves!

Plumbers lol
Haven't met a decent one ever in the history of ever!
Sadly!

 

[DPG]

Sooner you than me. I would have a very careful read of the relevant regulations and requirements.

 

[Gary Gemmell]

Sooner you than me. I would have a very careful read of the relevant regulations and requirements.

Got a link?
Are you a plumber?
Its just between me and the neighbour below as the third neighbour has had his tapped into the mains so doesnt use the tanks now and the guy below is ok with the job he will be helping so there will be no legal problems or hassle!

I wouldnt be doing it otherwise but have actually done the job before so I ken what I am doing with the chemicals etc and the so called plumbers we have had in are just nonsense!

Tanks on the other side are just as bad but not my problem thats the neighbours across the way problem.
They had a guy in a few months ago to replace the ball valve float and he charged £260 left and the thing was overflowing and he hasnt come back to sort it - not my problem but you see my concerns and this guy was recommended on Bark and had glowing reviews!

 

[DPG]

Got a link?
Are you a plumber?
Its just between me and the neighbour below as the third neighbour has had his tapped into the mains so doesnt use the tanks now and the guy below is ok with the job he will be helping so there will be no legal problems or hassle!

I wouldnt be doing it otherwise but have actually done the job before so I ken what I am doing with the chemicals etc

No I'm not a plumber.

The guy who has had his taps fed from the mains has got his head screwed on.

 

[Gary Gemmell]

No I'm not a plumber.

The guy who has had his taps fed from the mains has got his head screwed on.

Errrm

He is the guy who arranged all the electrical work so....ermm NO!
I think he got it FREE of charge cos he got rid of the old 60's vented cylinder and a combi put in - thats the only reason.
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Errrm

He is the guy who arranged all the electrical work so....ermm NO!
I think he got it FREE of charge cos he got rid of the old 60's vented cylinder and a combi put in - thats the only reason.

Besides do you not think that anything is better than the way the tank is now and has been for the last 50 years?

Not sure why you are giving me a hard time dude i am only trying to help old pensioners who cannot afford to be ripped off here!

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....I just want to spend an hour,in that 1970's Berni Inn snug....

Oh,and i'd use bottled water,to brush your teeth...

wHOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHH

Sorry that one went right over the top of my head

Berni Inn snug?
1970'S?
Whats that?

If you are saying my flat looks like 1970's then I thank you sir - The 70's were great easily my fave era.

Doctor Who, Space 1999, Columbo, Buck Rogers In The 25th Century, Linda Hamilton aka Wonder Woman, Sodastream, Hostess Trolleys, Sparklets and no political correctness sighhh......

 

[Lister1987]

You know we have Plumbing Advice for DIY & Professional Plumbers - https://www.plumbersforums.net don't you?

@Dan - What are the peeps like over there?

 

[Gary Gemmell]

You know we have Plumbing Advice for DIY & Professional Plumbers - https://www.plumbersforums.net don't you?

@Dan - What are the peeps like over there?

Nope
Thanks!

Was not supposed to be spending so long on here today I have a failed plasma telly to repair and some blown Yamaha surround power fets to replace and I missed COLUMBO!!!!!!!

 

[littlespark]

Was not supposed to be spending so long on here today I have a failed plasma telly to repair and some blown Yamaha surround power fets to replace and I missed COLUMBO!!!!!!!

Sky plus hasn't made it to Orkney yet, mate?
As for Columbo, you just need to know who he has been bugging all day to know they are the culprit, even if it is the gentile vicar with the dodgy leg.

Yes, our leader, Dan has a plumbers forum and a tilers forum too. links at the bottom of the page usually.
Is your 70's getting mixed up with 80's? And whats Sparklets? Im thinking Spangles the hard sweets

 

[ChipFanDave]

Would it be possible to get a picture of the inlet to that tank ? Also you may wish to ask the landlord for a look at the Legionella risk assessment.

 

[Midwest]

Nope
Thanks!

Was not supposed to be spending so long on here today I have a failed plasma telly to repair and some blown Yamaha surround power fets to replace and I missed COLUMBO!!!!!!!

Don‘t do arm wrestling, by any chance?