no earth to a socket

[buzzlightyear]

customer rings up ,I had a electrician round to put some sockets fronts in
the front room
and he told me you can use the sockets bar the socket for TV ,has no earth to it .
the spark is on holiday it had me think says the customer having no earth to the socket .
can you came and have a look ,turn up why did the spark not disconnect from the circuit I told the customer so you cant use it .
he also change the fuses from rewireble to those flick switches, you mean
wylex mcb yes
ok let me have a look at the socket and see why no earth.
holly F**K did the spark not tell you have VIR cable in that socket
and no earth sleeving .no said the customer.
I open the c/u most circuits had VIR cables on the lighting all sockets circuits
I'm afraid you need a rewire and a up grade of that old consumer unit
now the customer replays' back I have just move in weeks ago
cant afford a rewire.
where did you move from then, Yorkshire. mmmm. says it all .

.

 

[buzzlightyear]

customer rings up ,I had a electrician round to put some sockets fronts in
the front room.
and he told me you can use the sockets bar the socket for TV ,has no earth to it .
the spark is on holiday. it had me think says the customer having no earth to that socket .
can you came round and have a look ,turn up why did the spark not disconnect from the circuit I told the customer .so you cant use it .
he also change the fuses from rewireble to those flick switches, you mean wylex mcb yes.
ok let me have a look at the socket and see why you have no earth.
holly F**K did the spark not tell you have VIR cable in that socket
and no earth sleeving the customer said no.
I open the c/u most circuits had VIR cables on the lighting circuit all sockets circuits.
I'm afraid you need a rewire and a up grade of that old consumer unit
now the customer replays' back I have just move in weeks ago cant afford a rewire.
where did you move from then, Yorkshire. mmmm. says it all .!

is that ok

 

[Strima]

where did you move from then, Yorkshire. mmmm. says it all .

What's that supposed to mean?

 

[Midwest]

They do good fish & chips in Yorkshire. Even the Chinese think so.

I’m waiting for someone to ask why suggesting rewiring without testing or doing an EICR first

 

[buzzlightyear]

I’m waiting for someone to ask why suggesting rewiring without testing or doing an EICR first

what I saw without testing VIR cable .

 

[Midwest]

what I saw without testing VIR cable .

With you on that, but I bet someone will have a different view

 

[buzzlightyear]

delete

 

[MJPD29]

Did someone change a board with VIR cable in it?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Did someone change a board with VIR cable in it?

no ,they just change the bs3036 to wylex mcbs .

 

[suffolkspark]

there is actually a paragraph in approved doc P about VIR cables being beyond there service life.... handy if you get a customer that thinks your making it up because its been fine for 50 years yada yada!!!

 

[Midwest]

there is actually a paragraph in approved doc P about VIR cables being beyond there service life

Your gonna have to provide evidence for that. Not doubting you...….

 

[Dave OCD]

About 10-12 years ago I actually did a CU change with all VIR cabling, couldn't believe it as they were like new and tested out perfectly, that's the only time though. It must have been the environment they were in or they were installed later than most.

 

[buzzlightyear]

some of the circuits like the lighting on VIR cable had class 1 light fitting on and metal back boxes in .no doubt it would pass I/R .
I have left it to the customer to think about .

 

[MJPD29]

The last few times I've seen it it has literally been crumbling with any bends. Only once in the last 10 year's have I seen it in good condition and I have to say it was good, wasn't working at it but had a quick look

 

[suffolkspark]

I shall out at the mo at some lovely summer fireworks ive got a copy on the laptop

 

[elsparko]

some of the circuits like the lighting on VIR cable had class 1 light fitting on and metal back boxes in .no doubt it would pass I/R .
I have left it to the customer to think about .

im sure when 230ish volts is passing through them they may consider your wisdom

 

[suffolkspark]

Your gonna have to provide evidence for that. Not doubting you...….

As promised photo provided, this is taken from the full 43 page 2010 version of document P, it is not mentioned in the half sized 2013 online version strangely, but there may be full sized printed version of that which i dont have so dont know.

 

[suffolkspark]

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[Midwest]

As promised photo provided, this is taken from the full 43 page 2010 version of document P, it is not mentioned in the half sized 2013 online version strangely, but there may be full sized printed version of that which i dont have so dont know.

Well I go to the bottom of the stairs.