No Earthing In Lights

[SKY]

Hi All

Doing a CU change where the upper and lower light circuits have no earth so cannot do R1 R2 test.
I'm going cross these out on the cert - is this correct.

I will also make a note on the EIC under departures that no earth in the lighting was found.

Only passed my part P a few weeks ago, just i'm in the rear world learning process.

Do I need to do any thing else!?

Thanks All

 

[richy3333]

Yep, see the ESC guide notes on CU changes where there is no earth on lighting circuits.

Best practice guides : Electrical Safety Council

You'll need to label the CU appropriately, no metal light fittings etc.

Would the customer let you change accessory plates so you can 'plug' the screw holes, else change over the metal fixing screws to plastic ones, just to try and make things a little 'safer'?

 

[sedgy34]

You need to inform the customer a part rewire is required also your changing the consumer unit so a domestic electrical cert is required
limitations on lights to be put down and reason

 

[Octopus]

IMHO a part rewire is "not required", but should be recommended. Class II fittings, a label on the CU plus a note on the EIC, and whats the problem?

 

[dcelectrical]

Toolstation white low profile switches come with little white discs that go over the screw holes and they are low cost, half way to mk logic plus

 

[telectrix]

you may find that the back box lugs are nylon, in which case thre's no need to cap the screws.

 

[richy3333]

I agree that the customer is under no obligation to have a partial rewire, but they must be fully informed of the dangers. The ESC guide goes on about risk assessing etc.

The only good thing that comes out of Toolstation is the customer who hasn't bought anything

 

[SKY]

The only good thing that comes out of Toolstation is the customer who hasn't bought anything

I find them quite good, I purchase quite a lot of bits from them (especially plastic 20mm tube and fittings) and the quality seems very fair.
I'm also finding Electricfix currently to be the cheapest locally for cable.
Also currently getting MK 10 way fully loaded dual RCD CUs from them for £54 inc VAT.

 

[richy3333]

Fair do's, but in my experience I find their products cheap and nasty. I prefer to support my local wholesaler and they rarely won't price match competitors.

 

[sedgy34]

IMHO a part rewire is "not required", but should be recommended. Class II fittings, a label on the CU plus a note on the EIC, and whats the problem?

Im trying to understand your comment(a part rewire is "not required", but should be recommended) your contradicting yourself IMO if you think it's not required why would you say to the op he should recommend it?
Its either required or it isn't, also if it were you doing an eicr you would put that on the cert? The customer would be asking the same question

 

[Octopus]

Im trying to understand your comment(a part rewire is "not required", but should be recommended) your contradicting yourself IMO if you think it's not required why would you say to the op he should recommend it?
Its either required or it isn't, also if it were you doing an eicr you would put that on the cert? The customer would be asking the same question

"is required" suggests that this is the only option and necessary

"recommended" suggests that it would be a good step but not actually required!